DSC light changed for M3's?

-=Hot|Ice=- · 10-09-2011, 10:53 AM

BMW's DSC light seems to have changed.

It's gone from:

to:

Has it changed on the M3's?

Raptor251 · 10-09-2011, 10:57 AM

Yes its changed, I use to look at the top pic (2009 M3), and now I look at the bottom one (2011.5 M3)

JulieDriving · 10-09-2011, 11:22 AM

It's easy to understand IMO. I think that's good...

-=Hot|Ice=- · 10-09-2011, 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by JulieDriving

It's easy to understand IMO. I think that's good...

I mean, if you've ever driven a BMW, you'd understand it. It's been like the first pic since I believe the e36.

amglol · 10-09-2011, 11:32 AM

i'm guessing you meant DSC?

-=Hot|Ice=- · 10-09-2011, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by amglol

i'm guessing you meant DSC?

I thought that was the DTC light? Well, on the series BMW's that light means DTC is on and DSC has been deactivated.

aajami · 10-09-2011, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by -=Hot|Ice=-

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Originally Posted by amglol

i'm guessing you meant DSC?

I thought that was the DTC light? Well, on the series BMW's that light means DTC is on and DSC has been deactivated.

I believe it's called DTC on non-M cars and DSC on M-cars.

-=Hot|Ice=- · 10-09-2011, 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by aajami

I believe it's called DTC on non-M cars and DSC on M-cars.

Thanks for the correction.

Green///Hell · 10-09-2011, 12:39 PM

That kind of sucks. The DSC off light had its place in BMW Enthusiast culture
T-Shirts with the DSC off function etc were very cool and most M cars guys would spot it

-=Hot|Ice=- · 10-09-2011, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Green///Hell

That kind of sucks. The DSC off light had its place in BMW Enthusiast culture
T-Shirts with the DSC off function etc were very cool and most M cars guys would spot it

Exactly what I was trying to say.

klammer · 10-09-2011, 01:46 PM

Mines still "old school" and it's a 2011, so must be the decimal models...(2011.5, 2011.75, etc....)

SchnellM3 · 10-09-2011, 02:29 PM

That's dumb, glad mine is the old style

Is this a government mandated thing? Since this is how it is on most other cars too keep people from getting confused or something?

Ateam · 10-09-2011, 03:12 PM

Non-m have DSC and DTC. M has DSC only. Non M can turn DSC off and leave DTC on which is traction control only looking at wheel slippage v. full DSC which is full stability control looking at yaw rates, breaking etc.

M cars has only DSC on which is everything or everything totally off.

The M-drive is kind of like DTC in non-m cars as it keeps some of the nanny controls on but is more lenient. Not exactly the same but similar for understanding

PINHEAD · 10-09-2011, 03:40 PM

Mine was the old style, took it in for the usual updates, got updated to the new style.

-=Hot|Ice=- · 10-09-2011, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Ateam

Non-m have DSC and DTC. M has DSC only. Non M can turn DSC off and leave DTC on which is traction control only looking at wheel slippage v. full DSC which is full stability control looking at yaw rates, breaking etc.

M cars has only DSC on which is everything or everything totally off.

The M-drive is kind of like DTC in non-m cars as it keeps some of the nanny controls on but is more lenient. Not exactly the same but similar for understanding

Thank you for the clarification.

sameh · 10-09-2011, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by klammer

Mines still "old school" and it's a 2011, so must be the decimal models...(2011.5, 2011.75, etc....)

Same here. 2011 with the original light.

persian54 · 10-09-2011, 05:09 PM

mine is the old style...sept 2011 build

atruelunatic · 10-09-2011, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by persian54

mine is the old style...sept 2011 build

Weird, mine is new style... production week was first week of August 2011.

persian54 · 10-09-2011, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by atruelunatic

Weird, mine is new style... production week was first week of August 2011.

my z4 has the second symbol though

maybe cause i have an e93 and they were too lazy to change them?

dirtyfreebooter · 10-09-2011, 05:27 PM

I swear mine is the first one when I turn traction control off (constant on), and when the car is actively slipping, the second displays (only while the dsc is correcting slip)... Now I'm not sure and I will be out of town without my until wednesday, so I can't confirm that behavior...

Nov 2010, 2011.5 m3

luis_m3 · 10-09-2011, 07:13 PM

2011 May production... I have the new style. I kinda like it too.
Then again, I don't have a "look at me" t-shirt either. No offense...

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Originally Posted by atruelunatic

Quote:

Originally Posted by persian54

mine is the old style...sept 2011 build

Weird, mine is new style... production week was first week of August 2011.

MysticBlue · 10-09-2011, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by klammer

Mines still "old school" and it's a 2011, so must be the decimal models...(2011.5, 2011.75, etc....)

Mine's a 2009 and last time it had a software update I got the new style, so even older cars will end up with it if you get a software update.
The icon that tells you you have to put your foot on the brake to start if you neglect to do that has also changed to a little picture of a foot on a brake pedal. (DCT only).
Another change I've noticed with the latest update: When using either my ipod or the hard drive to listen to music, I would always have to go to options to select "random", even if that's how it was left last time I drove the car. Now, it stays that way. A little thing, but definitely an improvement.

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