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      02-13-2021, 12:08 PM   #16061
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To our northern brothers and sisters - please keep this winter crap to yourselves! Supposed to get down to 3* Monday - 3 freaking degrees!!! That is just dumb. We put up with +100* and 700% humidity all summer so that we don’t have to deal with winter! And now this??? Freaking city will shut down until at least Wednesday now; roads will be closed all over the place. If you do drive you will automatically be hit by 12 people claiming they hit ice patches - before you even get to the end of your street! And that is before the ice even gets here! Seriously, this is just dumb At least its supposed to get back to 70 a few days after - proper winter weather.




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This, my friend, is far from the good stuff!
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To our northern brothers and sisters - please keep this winter crap to yourselves! Supposed to get down to 3* Monday - 3 freaking degrees!!! That is just dumb. We put up with +100* and 700% humidity all summer so that we don’t have to deal with winter! And now this??? Freaking city will shut down until at least Wednesday now; roads will be closed all over the place. If you do drive you will automatically be hit by 12 people claiming they hit ice patches - before you even get to the end of your street! And that is before the ice even gets here! Seriously, this is just dumb At least its supposed to get back to 70 a few days after - proper winter weather.





My trip down to COTA on Thursday morning may be interesting.
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My trip down to COTA on Thursday morning may be interesting.
Yeah definitely could be

COTA is going to be slick again. Was starting to rubber in from the winter wet/snow but guessing this is going to be another reset.
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RR mounting and swapping guidelines are indeed strange. I've rotated them wherever to even out wear over the past 2 season without issue. Not nessicarily advising it, just putting it out there..
It is my understanding that they just need to be mounted that way, but then can be rotated however you'd like. Once they're heat cycled, you can do whatever (supposedly)
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Yeah I wanted to run then but didn't realize how oversized they were! They didn't fit my application.

Sadly my friends review of them were yes, they're fast but wear too quickly.

The last year I prolly went to 16 days at the track and upwards of 4-6 hours of track time a day. I need tires that last!! ��
Did you try running Toyo RR in 295/30/18 and found it to rub, while other 295s don't? I have been running 295 square AR1(it works, 18x10.5 ET22 wheels and JRZ + GC camber plates + short springs) and have a set of RR 295 square sitting here, waiting to be used.
I haven't tried the RR's yet. Mainly due to the general thought that it's not much better than a normal 100 tw tire. It's not on my list to try next to compare to the rest of the brands I've tried so far.
Keep thinking that so that they stay in stock for a decent price. Thanks.
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Sorry if this has already been posted. A new Team Schirmer build with carbon doors and a fully welded in cage. The claim of being able to take your wife to the restaurant afterwards might be stretching the breadth of its abilities a little, but still very impressive.
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Sorry if this has already been posted. A new Team Schirmer build with carbon doors and a fully welded in cage. The claim of being able to take your wife to the restaurant afterwards might be stretching the breadth of its abilities a little, but still very impressive.
Thanks for sharing. 🙏🏼
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Sorry if this has already been posted. A new Team Schirmer build with carbon doors and a fully welded in cage. The claim of being able to take your wife to the restaurant afterwards might be stretching the breadth of its abilities a little, but still very impressive.
You can take her to dinner. They never claimed she would be comfortable.
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Yeah I wanted to run then but didn't realize how oversized they were! They didn't fit my application.

Sadly my friends review of them were yes, they're fast but wear too quickly.

The last year I prolly went to 16 days at the track and upwards of 4-6 hours of track time a day. I need tires that last!! ��
Did you try running Toyo RR in 295/30/18 and found it to rub, while other 295s don't? I have been running 295 square AR1(it works, 18x10.5 ET22 wheels and JRZ + GC camber plates + short springs) and have a set of RR 295 square sitting here, waiting to be used.
I haven't tried the RR's yet. Mainly due to the general thought that it's not much better than a normal 100 tw tire. It's not on my list to try next to compare to the rest of the brands I've tried so far.
Keep thinking that so that they stay in stock for a decent price. Thanks.
I haven't driven on them. Does your experience tell me otherwise? I'm always open to sampling more tires!
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It is my understanding that they just need to be mounted that way, but then can be rotated however you'd like. Once they're heat cycled, you can do whatever (supposedly)
Those instruction for rotating apply for the life of the tire, not just initial heat cycle. At least that is my understanding from reading the posted instructions (which I've seen before), speaking with Toyo and local reps. Again, I haven't followed it, but that's what is suggested.
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Yeah definitely could be

COTA is going to be slick again. Was starting to rubber in from the winter wet/snow but guessing this is going to be another reset.
Ice racing on COTA sounds kinda fun though???

Might need to pickup some different rubber though. Slicks wouldn't be my first choice
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I haven't driven on them. Does your experience tell me otherwise? I'm always open to sampling more tires!
If an NT01 is a fair baseline for what 100tw is, RR is a fair baseline for what a 40tw tire is. It's a few seconds faster over a 2 min lap than NT01. AO52 is a bad baseline for what 200tw is, and is likely closer to 40tw. It's basically an RR with a little tread, that wears worse, but quite a bit more expensive. It doesn't compute.

People talk about the AO52 being shot after 3 track days. I haven't tried them because there is literally zero reason when the RR exists. They aren't going to be faster. They aren't going to last longer, and they aren't going to cost less.

I can get 4-5 days out of a set of RR's (25ish heat cycles). They are typically their fastest right at the end, and when it's over it's over. I like that lap time curve in a DE tire. Get's faster and faster until it dies, unlike the tires that start fast and decline in grip all the way to the cords.

Do they suck in the wet? oh yea. I either swap to my street tires for wet track days or if it's just damp keep em on, getting free laps with little to no tire wear and work on catching slides/car control.
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I haven't driven on them. Does your experience tell me otherwise? I'm always open to sampling more tires!
If an NT01 is a fair baseline for what 100tw is, RR is a fair baseline for what a 40tw tire is. It's a few seconds faster over a 2 min lap than NT01. AO52 is a bad baseline for what 200tw is, and is likely closer to 40tw. It's basically an RR with a little tread, that wears worse, but quite a bit more expensive. It doesn't compute.

People talk about the AO52 being shot after 3 track days. I haven't tried them because there is literally zero reason when the RR exists. They aren't going to be faster. They aren't going to last longer, and they aren't going to cost less.

I can get 4-5 days out of a set of RR's (25ish heat cycles). They are typically their fastest right at the end, and when it's over it's over. I like that lap time curve in a DE tire. Get's faster and faster until it dies, unlike the tires that start fast and decline in grip all the way to the cords.
How does a RE71R fit into this lineup?
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How does a RE71R fit into this lineup?
RE71R is +/- a tiny delta vs the NTO1. Probably leaning towards just a touch faster when new, all else equal. Wears faster than NTO1, but also quieter, imo.
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I've been running the AR-1 in 295/30/18 on a 10" rim and they fit the rim nicely. How would the same size RR compare in width?
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If an NT01 is a fair baseline for what 100tw is, RR is a fair baseline for what a 40tw tire is. It's a few seconds faster over a 2 min lap than NT01. AO52 is a bad baseline for what 200tw is, and is likely closer to 40tw. It's basically an RR with a little tread, that wears worse, but quite a bit more expensive. It doesn't compute.

People talk about the AO52 being shot after 3 track days. I haven't tried them because there is literally zero reason when the RR exists. They aren't going to be faster. They aren't going to last longer, and they aren't going to cost less.

I can get 4-5 days out of a set of RR's (25ish heat cycles). They are typically their fastest right at the end, and when it's over it's over. I like that lap time curve in a DE tire. Get's faster and faster until it dies, unlike the tires that start fast and decline in grip all the way to the cords.

Do they suck in the wet? oh yea. I either swap to my street tires for wet track days or if it's just damp keep em on, getting free laps with little to no tire wear and work on catching slides/car control.
good to know. thanks for the comparison. i might have to put the RR back on the "to try" list after the S3R.

i never tried the A052's because they drop off too fast. i need a tire that has some life to it since i go to the track at least twice a month.
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If an NT01 is a fair baseline for what 100tw is, RR is a fair baseline for what a 40tw tire is. It's a few seconds faster over a 2 min lap than NT01. AO52 is a bad baseline for what 200tw is, and is likely closer to 40tw. It's basically an RR with a little tread, that wears worse, but quite a bit more expensive. It doesn't compute.

People talk about the AO52 being shot after 3 track days. I haven't tried them because there is literally zero reason when the RR exists. They aren't going to be faster. They aren't going to last longer, and they aren't going to cost less.

I can get 4-5 days out of a set of RR's (25ish heat cycles). They are typically their fastest right at the end, and when it's over it's over. I like that lap time curve in a DE tire. Get's faster and faster until it dies, unlike the tires that start fast and decline in grip all the way to the cords.

Do they suck in the wet? oh yea. I either swap to my street tires for wet track days or if it's just damp keep em on, getting free laps with little to no tire wear and work on catching slides/car control.
good to know. thanks for the comparison. i might have to put the RR back on the "to try" list after the S3R.

i never tried the A052's because they drop off too fast. i need a tire that has some life to it since i go to the track at least twice a month.
I've got some dhhb scrubs from BW to try next after my RR's are done (after my next weekend at the track, eom).

There is very little info out there, and I'm not even entirely sure what they are. Hard Hard? When I called BW there were surprisingly unhelpful as to what they even were for a compound. Idk, but the price tasted nice and they look to be in pretty decent condition. So cheap they'd make rhyary blush. Alas, they don't sell 19" sizes so he won't be pulling from my supply.
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