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      07-30-2014, 02:07 PM   #1
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3...2...1.. FIGHT! ESS vs Evolve vs ESS

Im LOVING how these guys get down!



I think its clear these are definitely the TOP 2 S/C kits on the market. I haven't seen anything like this back and forth battle from anyone or anywhere else. With so many VF/Gintani/AA cars floating around, these are the only 2 kits willing to go back and forth, leave it all on the line and put the cars to the test! These guys arent talking theoreticals and dyno numbers and paper racing, they're gettin it in!


Whatever ACM did to that white car is working. It was a tight race before, but cooling the car down is working wonders. The normal 650 kit just gets left behind everytime, everytime, and we know those are no slouch either.

Props To Evolve for coming out the box with a legit kit, and ESS for constantly stepping their game up as well.

Anyone else excited to see the re-re-rematch again!

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Nice runs! ACM worked thier magic with that White 650+car . It's quickkk! Nice work.

Looks like LM will have to step it up....E650 now????
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really want to know what ACM did on the cooling side of things?
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Yeah, sooo many Harrop kits.
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ok ok, harrop cant get to market/tuned so lets take them out of the equation. the rest still stands
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Im LOVING how these guys get down!



I think its clear these are definitely the TOP 2 S/C kits on the market. I haven't seen anything like this back and forth battle from anyone or anywhere else. With so many VF/Gintani/AA cars floating around, these are the only 2 kits willing to go back and forth, leave it all on the line and put the cars to the test! These guys arent talking theoreticals and dyno numbers and paper racing, they're gettin it in!


Whatever ACM did to that white car is working. It was a tight race before, but cooling the car down is working wonders. The normal 650 kit just gets left behind everytime, everytime, and we know those are no slouch either.

Props To Evolve for coming out the box with a legit kit, and ESS for constantly stepping their game up as well.

Anyone else excited to see the re-re-rematch again!
Lol cute comments...
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Lol cute comments...
Im sorry if the truth hurts.

I think everyone is tired of excuses. Plenty of every other kit out here, but yet they never run. Not at dragstrips, not at road courses, not at roll events, not on midnight runs, nothing. Its almost as if they are afraid to lose and fracture their "online image" of superiority.

I would absolutely LOVE to see another kit come out! These guys, been racing eachother for years now apparently, live almost 3 hours away from eachother and willing to stop what they're doing in an instant when the other one calls them and meet up to TEST a new "theory", not just talk about it.

ESS without question has been the top dog in S/C'ers for years now, there is no disputing that. Evolve came out swinging and knocked it out of the park. AutoCouture was able to maximize an already potent setup to come in front again. Where is everyone else?
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really want to know what ACM did on the cooling side of things?
Its magic


but it is part of our ACM-R line that will be released shortly

if anyones interested you can pm me in the meantime
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but it is part of our ACM-R line that will be released shortly

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Its magic


but it is part of our ACM-R line that will be released shortly

if anyones interested you can pm me in the meantime

works on any platform of s/c???

i have s54 VT2-500.. any gains for me??
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That white ESS car is moving the fuck out lol...
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Im sorry if the truth hurts.

I think everyone is tired of excuses. Plenty of every other kit out here, but yet they never run. Not at dragstrips, not at road courses, not at roll events, not on midnight runs, nothing. Its almost as if they are afraid to lose and fracture their "online image" of superiority.

I would absolutely LOVE to see another kit come out! These guys, been racing eachother for years now apparently, live almost 3 hours away from eachother and willing to stop what they're doing in an instant when the other one calls them and meet up to TEST a new "theory", not just talk about it.

ESS without question has been the top dog in S/C'ers for years now, there is no disputing that. Evolve came out swinging and knocked it out of the park. AutoCouture was able to maximize an already potent setup to come in front again. Where is everyone else?

Agreed, to a extent. Results vary, I have raced 1 Evolve car 2 ESS cars which 1 of them was a 650 kit and pulled no problem on them with my Gintani S/C kit on 7.5psi. I am open to run any 6MT Blown E9x M3 for comparision sake I am pretty confident that another 6MT Supercharged M3 won't pull on me.
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Agreed, to a extent. Results vary, I have raced 1 Evolve car 2 ESS cars which 1 of them was a 650 kit and pulled no problem on them with my Gintani S/C kit on 7.5psi. I am open to run any 6MT Blown E9x M3 for comparision sake I am pretty confident that another 6MT Supercharged M3 won't pull on me.
Awesome! But I think Toronto is a bit far for a lot of these comparisons. Its a select few on the east, and the shift sector guys on the west, with a few wannagofast in the middle

Plus manual Vs DCT isnt fair and the 6MT guys arent as hardcore as the DCT guys
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works on any platform of s/c???

i have s54 VT2-500.. any gains for me??
We are in testing stages currently for the S54 platform
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Weight reduction. More boost. Cooling. Higher octane fuel.
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Agreed, to a extent. Results vary, I have raced 1 Evolve car 2 ESS cars which 1 of them was a 650 kit and pulled no problem on them with my Gintani S/C kit on 7.5psi. I am open to run any 6MT Blown E9x M3 for comparision sake I am pretty confident that another 6MT Supercharged M3 won't pull on me.
Awesome! But I think Toronto is a bit far for a lot of these comparisons. Its a select few on the east, and the shift sector guys on the west, with a few wannagofast in the middle

Plus manual Vs DCT isnt fair and the 6MT guys arent as hardcore as the DCT guys
Haha too funny. I guess it has to be posted on here in order for it to happen. Been racing my Gintani car since 2010. Been to the road course (button willow/willowsprings) a shift sector event and idk how many midnight meets (I routinely hit up forum members to join) but apparently popping off on here is the only way to "prove a kit". Talk about online status...
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Haha too funny. I guess it has to be posted on here in order for it to happen. Been racing my Gintani car since 2010. Been to the road course (button willow/willowsprings) a shift sector event and idk how many midnight meets (I routinely hit up forum members to join) but apparently popping off on here is the only way to "prove a kit". Talk about online status...
Oh, you have a gintani car? what are the odds.. but, I guess what Im getting at, is that your posting often enough to care and share your thoughts on the kits, and race the car. And care enough about my comment to argue about it, so show us a Gintani car vs something comparable to prove your point.

Im not asking much, just prove your point and show how close the cars are, how they stack up..

BTW, im sure you meant 2012, not 2010 for how long youve been racing with a S/C'd M3..

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I think I've posted most of em before but since you twisted my arm lol. I'm gonna double check to make sure the guys who own the cars don't care I post some of the vids. Alot of em don't like the drama of this forum surprisingly.
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yea, the drama. looks like the ess and evolve guys get along.. not sure about everyone else.... only 1 person cared more about the comments than the content i was trying to share, so..
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yea, the drama. looks like the ess and evolve guys get along.. not sure about everyone else.... only 1 person cared more about the comments than the content i was trying to share, so..
Dude when you make a statement like you did, top two kits, no one else battles.... Just had to correct you was all. Evolves product is brand new (still appears to be top notch) and obviously everyone knows how solid ess is. You just come off as someone who has just gotten into racing and is all giddy. People have been racing these kits for quite some time and most of the big players on the forums are over it (Drew/Longboarder). Regardless man, glad to see others are out there racing but it's more like, welcome to the scene than calling out other kits.
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