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Yes, its true you never know who you are buying from... But I met the previous owner and genuinely liked the guy... Kind of a geeky computer IT guy in his mid 50's but loved cars and was a gear head, car-queer like all of us here... He wanted to buy the F80 M4... The car honestly looks like it spent most of its days in the darkness of the garage... It is nearly flawless and looks new... I'm not saying that you can't drive a clean car hard, but this car is one clean-gorgeous car inside and out... It's truly tragic this happened to such a good looking car... I can say this... I really think that the previous owner loved this car as much as me... |
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Okay so this actually came up a few weeks ago at a BMWCCA meet in Monterey and my friend who has a 10' E92 (mine 13 E92) ask the question to the DINAN reps about this. Big issue with the 08-10 S65 engines and apparently the issue was resolved by BMW starting with year group 10-13. My friend has about 47K on his right now and no issues so far. DINAN does Rod bearing replacements for 3K out the door and might be a good consideration to replace early than down the road with a new engine or hoping for goodwill from BMW. None the less it is something that he is going to keep an eye on and I hope that this doesn't happen to any one else down the road.
Recommendation if you have an 08-09 go for the rod bearing replacements early and have it checked out. 3K although not a small sum, is still better than the worst possible outcome: a new engine |
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I'm sorry you got stuck with the car, but when buying any car like this you take a chance, and this time you lost. I bought mine new and have been careful so my chances are less but still, it's possible I'll have issues too. What can we do?
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04-28-2015, 09:26 PM | #184 |
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It's much more complicated than that. From the pictures of the failed bearings, some failed due to an obvious lack of lubrication (thick oem oil weight recommendation?), some got chewed up, indicating installation (production) issues- i.e incorrect tolerances, incorrect install-bolts too tight, etc.
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errr...how the heck did they discover that?
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Also, note that most of the hysteria is from guys posting on the general section or the engine section, with low post counts. Not one bearing failure thread on the track section, and our breed flogs cars.
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Again, consider variances in production. Some bearings were measured and show the correct measurements, others not. This is the only thing that explains an engine that has lasted up to 170+K miles for some people, and <15K miles for others.
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I think I read that you just recently changed your oil prior to this. So wouldn't the oil dropping from full to half pretty quickly after an oil change be normal and NOT indicate anything is wrong with your bearings. I've changed the oil about 6 times since ive owned the car and every time the oil gauge goes from about max to half pretty quick, then it levels out and I maybe have to add another 1/2 liter before I change the oil again. I just want clarification so people (and myself) just don't think because they are burning oil quickly its bearing failure...
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haha def not.
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This graph is of all failures (on M3post) except supercharged cars. The X axis is stated year of manufacturer, oldest at zero (ordered by date of fail). There was the bearing spec change to EU mandated lead free bearing at around mid 2010 most likely for the 2011 model change in August 2010. Assuming all cars with a stated build date of 2011 have the new bearings then the change occurs on the graph with car 26. Newer cars fail at around the same rate as older cars but at a lower mileage. http://www.m3post.com/forums/showpos...&postcount=136 |
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Sadly this is why I'll probably sell my car next fall. There will finally be new cars out that I want and I can't swing a $20k repair. If I wanted to blow $5-$6k on insurance I'd have just repaired my STI with a built block and no car payments.
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Please don't post such B.S. telling people you will selling the car because you asume it could happen to you... Jesus christ the way you act I bet you are the living paradise for any kind of seller/ dealer around the world. Dude, even if your bearing's fail....you are nit automatically facing a bill of 20k! Crankshaft and bearing might go down south...but not always the whole engine so there are alway's a billion other way's to get the car running, before you really need a complete new engine. Man, just calm down, stay relaxed and freaking, by all mean's enjoy your car! Believe me it's one of the best car's you can have on the market, even if it would be MY 2008! Oh and if it happen to you, knowledge yourself and tackle the job on your own! Get those bearing's for a couple of hundred buck's and just have fun and enjoy your life!!!!!!!!! |
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