New 2009/LCI iDrive controller installation...

[Technic]

Originally Posted by Snig

My response was to AussieM3's statement that an update couldn't be performed with the controller installed. I stated that the update could be updated with the controller installed, as a fact, having firsthand experience, where AussieM3 states he has no firsthand experience. The misinformation is not about who could do it, but whether it could be done or not. Dealerships were never mentioned until now.

All you had to do was ask for more information instead getting amped up over a forum post.

You kind of forgot who created this thread, dude.

http://www.m3post.com/forums/showpos...0&postcount=95

This is not a pissing contest, and only you are calling names like a child. Multiple times in this thread several people -that really know and have done more than you- have stated that no dealer will be able to update the car with a P/N that is not part of the VO. Why it was repeated several times? Because we want forum members to know all the facts behind this unofficial retrofit/swap before they actually go ahead and buy parts and then find out these small details that could block a warranty update of the car.

So you got an aftermarket coder to update your car bypassing the controller. Good. I said that a little more than 3 years ago. You should have repeated so and moved on without really looking like an ass yourself.

[Lorde]

Originally Posted by Technic

You kind of forgot who created this thread, dude.

http://www.m3post.com/forums/showpos...0&postcount=95

This is not a pissing contest, and only you are calling names like a child. Multiple times in this thread several people -that really know and have done more than you- have stated that no dealer will be able to update the car with a P/N that is not part of the VO. Why it was repeated several times? Because we want forum members to know all the facts behind this unofficial retrofit/swap before they actually go ahead and buy parts and then find out these small details that could block a warranty update of the car.

So you got an aftermarket coder to update your car bypassing the controller. Good. I said that a little more than 3 years ago. You should have repeated so and moved on without really looking like an ass yourself.

You're right, this isn't a pissing contest. It has quickly escalated into a Technic ego trip.

AussieM3 and I are square.

When I posted my initial response using my phone (opting not to read all 8 pages on a mobile device), I interjected at a point where it was called into question the possibility of updating with the controller. Sure, I didn't go into detail, and in looking at the question asked and the time I replied, dealership was not mentioned once. I just wanted to get the point across that there were alternatives after a quick glance. I don't read this thread every day for new replies unlike some people. I am all for getting the right info out to other owners and thought I was squashing information.

Oh forgive me great and powerful Technic, Lord of the Coding / ConnectedDrive / Audio-Video / Electronics / Bluetooth / I-Drive & Nav sub-forum of M3post. How will we ever retrofit new technology without you?! Have mercy!

How hard was it to take an LCI controller, plug it in, test to see if it works, then go from there. Not exactly rocket laundry, but yes, you did it first and many on here have acknowledged your one small step for man in the retrofit department. But it's not exactly the Higgs-Boson. Someone would have figured it out eventually, like Calculus. You're like Newton and some Joe Schmuckatelli on the boards with an idea that the controller might swap, is Leibniz.



<3,

Snig

*It's the internet, let's just take a deep breath and

[Technic]

I can play the stupid game too, that's all.

Originally Posted by Snig

You're right, this isn't a pissing contest. It has quickly escalated into a Technic ego trip.

AussieM3 and I are square.

When I posted my initial response using my phone (opting not to read all 8 pages on a mobile device), I interjected at a point where it was called into question the possibility of updating with the controller. Sure, I didn't go into detail, and in looking at the question asked and the time I replied, dealership was not mentioned once. I just wanted to get the point across that there were alternatives after a quick glance. I don't read this thread every day for new replies unlike some people. I am all for getting the right info out to other owners and thought I was squashing information.

Oh forgive me great and powerful Technic, Lord of the Coding / ConnectedDrive / Audio-Video / Electronics / Bluetooth / I-Drive & Nav sub-forum of M3post. How will we ever retrofit new technology without you?! Have mercy!

How hard was it to take an LCI controller, plug it in, test to see if it works, then go from there. Not exactly rocket laundry, but yes, you did it first and many on here have acknowledged your one small step for man in the retrofit department. But it's not exactly the Higgs-Boson. Someone would have figured it out eventually, like Calculus. You're like Newton and some Joe Schmuckatelli on the boards with an idea that the controller might swap, is Leibniz.



<3,

Snig

*It's the internet, let's just take a deep breath and

[Lorde]

Originally Posted by Technic

I can play the stupid game too, that's all.

maddddddd.

[mdosu]

wtf just happened?

[Technic]

Originally Posted by mdosu

wtf just happened?

The calling of names in a technical thread (the post was conveniently edited). That's what happened.

[mdosu]

anyways..let's get this back on track...There's quite a bit of meaningful contributions in regards to this swap.

[AW750Li]

hey guys i have a 2008 e90 m3 and im unsure of which controller to buy... can anyone lead me in the right direction? thank you

[Technic]

Originally Posted by AW750Li

hey guys i have a 2008 e90 m3 and im unsure of which controller to buy... can anyone lead me in the right direction? thank you

Use the P/N at the beginning of the thread... if that is superseded by another P/N then that will be it.

[aussiem3]

Originally Posted by AW750Li

hey guys i have a 2008 e90 m3 and im unsure of which controller to buy... can anyone lead me in the right direction? thank you

On a serious note, don't people read the threads properly and keep asking the same question that has been asked a multiple times. No wonder the threads grow without substance.

[AW750Li]

Originally Posted by aussiem3

On a serious note, don't people read the threads properly and keep asking the same question that has been asked a multiple times. No wonder the threads grow without substance.

I did search and couldn't find anything but thank you for your worthless comment

[Technic]

Originally Posted by AW750Li

I did search and couldn't find anything but thank you for your worthless comment

This is another worthless comment just for you... http://www.m3post.com/forums/showpos...22&postcount=4

[AW750Li]

Originally Posted by Technic

This is another worthless comment just for you... http://www.m3post.com/forums/showpos...22&postcount=4

Thank you I appreciate it

[mdosu]

Originally Posted by AW750Li

I did search and couldn't find anything but thank you for your worthless comment

i just did this a few months ago, so my post had fresher data regarding P/N for controllers:

http://www.m3post.com/forums/showpos...&postcount=136

[JFWM3]

Okay need some help.

My car is a February '08 build. Bought the 6mt '09 upgrade package from Tischer, put in the controller and it lights up but wont function. I knew that was a risk.

There is a ton of stuff in this thread and I basically want to know two things.



1. What do I request the Dealer to do in terms of software upgrade. The dealers can be conservative and dopey sometimes so I want to be specific in my instructions.

2. When they do the upgrade, is it done with the '08 controller or the '09 controller installed. If it is with the '08 controller I assume I just install the '09 when I get home.



Let me know guys and thanks!!!!

[Technic]

Originally Posted by JFWM3

Okay need some help.

My car is a February '08 build. Bought the 6mt '09 upgrade package from Tischer, put in the controller and it lights up but wont function. I knew that was a risk.

There is a ton of stuff in this thread and I basically want to know two things.

1. What do I request the Dealer to do in terms of software upgrade. The dealers can be conservative and dopey sometimes so I want to be specific in my instructions.

1) Remove new controller
2) Install old controller
3) Tell dealer that your car is acting up because of "xxx" -search the forum for SIBs that require software updates. For example, if you have M-DCT then complain about slow shifting. That should be enough for a software update.

2. When they do the upgrade, is it done with the '08 controller or the '09 controller installed. If it is with the '08 controller I assume I just install the '09 when I get home.

Let me know guys and thanks!!!!

As stated before several times, a dealer update cannot be performed if OEM parts not factory installed in your production-build car are present.

[mdosu]

Originally Posted by JFWM3

Okay need some help.

My car is a February '08 build. Bought the 6mt '09 upgrade package from Tischer, put in the controller and it lights up but wont function. I knew that was a risk.

There is a ton of stuff in this thread and I basically want to know two things.



1. What do I request the Dealer to do in terms of software upgrade. The dealers can be conservative and dopey sometimes so I want to be specific in my instructions.

2. When they do the upgrade, is it done with the '08 controller or the '09 controller installed. If it is with the '08 controller I assume I just install the '09 when I get home.



Let me know guys and thanks!!!!

return the car to the original state, reinstall the old controller before taking it in for the update.

You can either tell him you need an update for some reason, or you can elect to pay for the update. Seperately, local coding services can also do it for you in lieu of the dealer.

[JFWM3]

Originally Posted by mdosu

return the car to the original state, reinstall the old controller before taking it in for the update.

You can either tell him you need an update for some reason, or you can elect to pay for the update. Seperately, local coding services can also do it for you in lieu of the dealer.

Thanks, very helpful.

Is the software update for the I-Drive only or for the whole vehicle? My dealer said there is no I-Drive specific software update. My car is out of warranty, but I was going to just tell another dealer that I go to that my I-Drive is running slow and froze once to get the update.

Also, my car is ESS supercharged. I trust the updated software would not effect any engine related software?

[mdosu]

Originally Posted by JFWM3

Thanks, very helpful.

Is the software update for the I-Drive only or for the whole vehicle? My dealer said there is no I-Drive specific software update. My car is out of warranty, but I was going to just tell another dealer that I go to that my I-Drive is running slow and froze once to get the update.

Also, my car is ESS supercharged. I trust the updated software would not effect any engine related software?

dealer will only update engine and i-drive software together. Since you have the ESS and likely tuning software associated with it, I would opt to have the tuner to update the i-drive for you. Hopefully, you can find someone local.

I did just the opposite. I did the cic controller swap, then I wanted the engine software update. Had I taken it to the dealer, i would have had to put in my old controller b/c they do engine and idrive together. Instead, I took my car to a local coder, who was able to only update the engine software and left my idrive software alone. It saved me money since he was cheaper than the dealer and the hassle of swapping controllers again.

[JFWM3]

Originally Posted by mdosu

dealer will only update engine and i-drive software together. Since you have the ESS and likely tuning software associated with it, I would opt to have the tuner to update the i-drive for you. Hopefully, you can find someone local.

I did just the opposite. I did the cic controller swap, then I wanted the engine software update. Had I taken it to the dealer, i would have had to put in my old controller b/c they do engine and idrive together. Instead, I took my car to a local coder, who was able to only update the engine software and left my idrive software alone. It saved me money since he was cheaper than the dealer and the hassle of swapping controllers again.

Thanks Mdoso, you have been a lot of help.

I will try Bimmersport in Mississauga. Hope it works, I want to rid the old I-Drive knob.


Regards,

JFW

[JFWM3]

Originally Posted by JFWM3

Thanks Mdoso, you have been a lot of help.

I will try Bimmersport in Mississauga. Hope it works, I want to rid the old I-Drive knob.


Regards,

JFW

Bimmersport says they can do this which is great!

[DopeM3]

What's the P/N exact I need for an 05/08 built?

I wonder if all the iDrive controllers are the same. I mean, they look the same to me.