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Yes slammed I understand if you are leasing the car, I wouldn't have cared either for the winter! I would have felt comfortable driving it all year around if it was leased too since I dont own the car and could care less about chips, salt, paint damage, ground clearance, higher risk of getting hit etc. I spend a lot of time out west in the guelph/kitchener/waterloo area where its even worse conditions then toronto, most roads have black ice, salt and snow all season Last year I put the M away from December - March first week. This year it was literally this week to probably march first week, meh hardly 3 months? Since I bought mine out and plan on keeping her for a while unless I find something better! And I have access to other decent rides, why should I drive it in the winter You have been in the detailing business and your cousin is in it still! and you are extra meticulous with your car so no matter what the weather it will always look nice all year around And whenever you go for long road trips, you still cheat and save the M sometimes Quote:
FYI: Slammed, Subzero temperatures are also not good for the rubber seals in our verts, as per the shop foreman at BMW Toronto. 1. Rubber is being exposed to subzero extreme temperatures which can cause cracks in the seals leading to creaks and windnoises over time 2. If going through touchless (which you told me you use in the winter) Water getting in and freezing will expand and stress the seals again and over time cause similar issues. However, most of these issues wont be immediate but over time it may cause creaks, rattles, wind noises, which I would rather avoid too But since you are leasing, again I know its not a big deal for you! |
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12-11-2009, 02:31 AM | #156 | |
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Well in that case I suppose the M3 is a young man's car? I suppose no old people should be driving it now, should they Lets do a poll Mr. Dave on M3 drivers, and I think you would be quite surprised |
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12-11-2009, 02:36 AM | #157 | |
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I never doubted the M3's capability, but I would rather be driving the LX when I am going through that
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AWD/4WD would get better grip, braking and stopping times especially with the new technology in luxury vehicles these days! I mean if that was the case, why would they make 4-Matic versions in Mercedes S,E,C classes and why did they launch the X-Drive in the 7 series this year. Clearly, there was a demand for these kind of systems! |
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12-11-2009, 09:10 AM | #158 | |
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I do care about stone chips and stuff like that, therefore I respray the bumper in the spring and it looks brand new again!!
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12-11-2009, 09:17 AM | #159 | |
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Your right, there is a demand for these systems, because they provide traction where a FWD or RWD can't. But it DOES NOT help with braking or stopping distances AT ALL.
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You can start with me, I am 65.....
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12-11-2009, 10:20 AM | #161 | |
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I'm 61. I might enjoy a 5-series, particularly an M5, but the 7-series is an old fart's car, IMHO. Dave
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12-11-2009, 10:28 AM | #162 | |
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People like four wheel drive because it gives better acceleration. Unfortunately, many misplace confidence and think that their X-drive is superior in all other aspects when it's not. Too many people here in Colorado drive their SUVs and X-drives with 4-season tires because of their misguided and misplaced confidence in four wheel drive, right before they ram the concrete median or plow into a Canadian M3 stopped at a light. Four wheel drive cars benefit from winter tires just as much as rear drive cars. Dave
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12-11-2009, 11:14 AM | #163 | |
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"I can start better so therefore I must be able to stop better." Please.
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Agree with the posters who say that AWD does NOT help in braking on snow or ice. I have had both AWD and RWD; and AWD does help get going, but not stopping. I have also driven FWD in the snow, and like it the least.
Also, agree that drivers of SUVs & trucks with AWD tend to "overdrive" their vehicles falsely thinking they can stop and handle better. On most mountain roads/passes up here in the winter, the majority of vehicles in trouble will be SUVs/trucks. That is just an observation, not backed up by statistical facts.
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For M3 Vert, think about what actually happens when you are braking - no accelerative force being applied so no advantage when 2 wheels are being driven over 4. As for "who told you that?" Nobody, just common sense. |
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However, dont make statements like that. Trust me you would be surprised how many YUPPIES and people I know who drive and appreciate big luxury sedans. (mind you the 7 series is the driver's car from the S Class, Lexus LS, Audi A8!). Its everyone's taste and just becase your an old fart and think the 7 is one too doesnt make it one |
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12-11-2009, 06:45 PM | #168 |
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I couldn't agree more, most SUVs get into accidents because of that false hope, so depends on the DRIVER!.
But comeon in a storm like that....I would feel safer in a big SUV as oppose to a sportscar like a M3. Think about it, if you get into an accident...from a safety prospective, I think you probably have better chances in that tank called the LX (OR anyother SUV), not the M3 |
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12-11-2009, 06:59 PM | #171 | |
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The 4WD/AWD would give better traction and handling but NOT Braking!. I guess the braking system used in 4WD/AWD could be a little different to the RWD braking systems, but it could be argued |
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12-11-2009, 07:05 PM | #172 | |
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However, its that false sense of hope when you are sitting high up in that SUV which makes you feel that you might stop faster but in reality its not the case! However, I still keep my word that there are better alternatives in the winter and certainly in conditions like signes described with his m3 vert covered in snow! |
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12-11-2009, 07:19 PM | #173 | |
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You're the one that brought that possibility up, YUPPIE. Go reread your own posts. You listed that as one of your reasons that none of us should drive our M3s in winter conditions. Dave
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I said I would never do it, beause I have other vehicles such as the flagship OLD FARTS the LX570 and the 760Li For a senior, you sure are thick |
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