RIP to Daniel Portela (AKA Lucifer_M3)

Mrbig · 01-25-2011, 06:01 PM

RIP

Diver · 01-25-2011, 06:04 PM

This has been bothering ma all day as the deceased was just a bit younger than my children. I suppose a single 29 year old with a good job can afford a $75k car, but suspect he had some help from his parents on this. That gets me to the heart of the matter. I can't imagine how his parents must feel about their loss.

Moralizing about drunken driving or distracted driving is inappropriate here.

Merciphil · 01-25-2011, 06:13 PM

truly sad news... RIP

Jewish Elmo from Brooklyn · 01-25-2011, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by elp_jc

Best wishes for his family.

But now my 2 questions:
- How fast do you think this guy was going?
- And most importantly, would a competitor have broken in 2 like that???

Maybe it's warranted, but looking at that accident doesn't make me think my M3 has the structural integrity it should have. Maybe I'm wrong. Comments?

had to be going over 100, 90 in my car feels like 60

bake · 01-25-2011, 07:59 PM

RIP. We have all made mistakes. So sad that his cost him his life. My prayers go out to his family and friends.

TX · 01-25-2011, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Jewish Elmo from Brooklyn

had to be going over 100, 90 in my car feels like 60

I've looked at the photos a hundred times or more and believe this is over 100mph. Which brings up the composite roof material and lighter materials used in the doors and body of our cars. Composites shatter and do not absorb any energy. What was left of the plastic fender melted. I cant see anything matching what should be a drivers door. it does not look like the seats stayed with the frame either. Maybe they were removed before these photos were taken? Where is the massive drive shaft?
Usually an end result like this is due to a train running through a car. How fast was this guy going?

MDivPower · 01-25-2011, 08:09 PM

RIP

cukoodukoo · 01-25-2011, 08:16 PM

Its a very sad day for everyone.If this incident would prevent another accident by opening our eyes to the dangers of speeding,it would bring peace to his soul.
Our greatest consolation to the family would be a change in our attitude.I don't drink and never plan to .But I speed for silly reasons.I feel i can safely speed because I drive a bimmer.I guess there are speed limits posted for a reason.Regardless of our degree of sobriety... I guess there is nothing like speeding safely.
RIP

skierman64 · 01-25-2011, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by tlr

Looking at the map it looks like it's a relatively sharp curve after a long straight stretch.

http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=&q=&i...,0.033023&z=16

Maybe they need to put some better signage in. Even if he was going too fast, I'd say it's better to have extra warning signs for those who speed than tragic accidents like this.

The road is marked at 45mph and there appears to be a traffic light in the middle of the long corner. I've never been there, but from what I can see, it doesn't need extra signs. Plus when you compare the radius of the corner to turn 4 at Watkins Glen, I'd say a E92M3 could take that corner at 100 or 110 plus.

Here's turn 4 at the Glen. http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&sour...11319&t=h&z=17

My heart goes out to the Portela family. Let us hope the rest of us can learn something from this tragedy.

WellyWorld · 01-25-2011, 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by tlr

Looking at the map it looks like it's a relatively sharp curve after a long straight stretch.

http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=&q=&i...,0.033023&z=16

Maybe they need to put some better signage in. Even if he was going too fast, I'd say it's better to have extra warning signs for those who speed than tragic accidents like this.

It is relatively sharp turn and dimly lit, residential area. The only signage is the posted speed limit, I believe? Can't say I notice signs being a local and know the roads like the back of my hand. The road has reflectors all over it, as do most roads here. He was past the apex of the curve when he made the impact with the first tree.

Someone took some pictures of the crash scene and posted them here:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/71sbeet...n/photostream/

JayeJaymes · 01-25-2011, 08:28 PM

Rip fellow member, my prayers go out to your family and friends. There should be a thread with all other similar incidents on these forums for those members that have lost there life, to remember them and serve as a reminder to us all that need it. Hopefully there aren't many

tightie · 01-25-2011, 08:30 PM

RIP.

WellyWorld · 01-25-2011, 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by dexx

24 hours after the incident. They said alcohol was a factor but I doubt the toxicology report is public already, no one even knows if he was over the limit... all this talk of drunk driving.... *sigh*

tisk tisk.

Not here to pass false info or to be disrespectful, but he just left The Player's Club and it was 3:30AM on a Monday morning. No idea if he was legally drunk or what, but they already said alcohol was a factor. There are videos out there that show what a few beers will do to your reaction speed and motor skills. At high speed your reaction time requirements are even greater.

BZTR · 01-25-2011, 08:50 PM

Terrible news...

RIP

Marioalex24 · 01-25-2011, 09:19 PM

RIP. That's so sad. That's why we should all be careful in driving and if we should want to drive fast then a track is always near our areas.

SECRET M · 01-25-2011, 09:28 PM

very sad news, and a loss for our community. regardless of the persons behavior (safe, wreckless, drunk, or foolish), the loss of life is something i would never wish upon anyone.

let's take this as a opportunity to be aware that our cars are not invincible, and as a reminder in those moments when we're faced with a decision to push harder or back off on public streets, to back off and save the fun for an appropriate venue.

EINSER M · 01-25-2011, 09:41 PM

feel sorry for his family that's a given. regardless of impairment he was going way too fast.

NYCMCBM3 · 01-25-2011, 09:42 PM

poor guy worked so hard to get his car , and it killed him =(

RIP

NYCMCBM3 · 01-25-2011, 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by SECRET M

very sad news, and a loss for our community. regardless of the persons behavior (safe, wreckless, drunk, or foolish), the loss of life is something i would never wish upon anyone.

let's take this as a opportunity to be aware that our cars are not invincible, and as a reminder in those moments when we're faced with a decision to push harder or back off on public streets, to back off and save the fun for an appropriate venue.

There is a time and place fore everything

M3ltdown · 01-25-2011, 09:54 PM

RIP...very sad indeed.

mike33176 · 01-25-2011, 09:59 PM

Met him a few days ago driving to the Wellington Mall, Nice Kid, SUCKS! I'm 40 and I know I'm guilty of driving after drinking a few, maybe a little too fast in the M at times and, this makes me step back and take a look. Life is too short! Whether or not he was drinking, let's all think about this next time you're even questionable about driving, I know I will!

harleyAS · 01-25-2011, 10:26 PM

for those of you who have expressed your warm condolences, I thank you.

for those of you who have passed negative harsh judgment, i ask you to please save it for another forum.. or express it on a different topic.

For those of you who did not know Dani, he was a wonderful and loving person in so many ways. He was one of my dear friends, and truly special. We rode horses together, and i feel truly blessed to have had him apart of my life. He left this world way to early. Dani was a very smart, an amazing photographer, and a talented athlete...but most of all put a smile on everyone's face. He was not even a big drinker. We all dabble, and sometimes make mistakes but this is not the time to pass judgment. We still do not entirely know all the details of his passing. please let his friends, and family mourn the loss of a wonderful friend, brother, and son. He had passion for life and everyone around him. Please remember him in a positive light, like he deserves.

we miss, and love u Dani.

01-25-2011, 06:01 PM	#133
Mrbig Major 112 Rep 1,468 Posts Drives: 15 M3 Join Date: May 2007 Location: N.Y.C iTrader: (1)	RIP
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Diver Brigadier General 504 Rep 3,445 Posts Drives: Black '12 135i - Sold Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Texas iTrader: (0)	This has been bothering ma all day as the deceased was just a bit younger than my children. I suppose a single 29 year old with a good job can afford a $75k car, but suspect he had some help from his parents on this. That gets me to the heart of the matter. I can't imagine how his parents must feel about their loss. Moralizing about drunken driving or distracted driving is inappropriate here. __________________ See my photography at http://ronscubadiver.wordpress.com
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Merciphil Private First Class 2 Rep 123 Posts Drives: 2011 E92 M 6MT Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Socal iTrader: (0)	truly sad news... RIP
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bake Colonel 632 Rep 2,224 Posts Drives: 2011 F10, 2013 E93 Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: New York iTrader: (9)	RIP. We have all made mistakes. So sad that his cost him his life. My prayers go out to his family and friends. __________________ *Bake* 2011 Alpine White on Black 535i M-Sport 2013 Space Gray on Fox Red M3 Vert
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cukoodukoo Private First Class 20 Rep 154 Posts Drives: 981 GTS Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Frozen iTrader: (0)	Its a very sad day for everyone.If this incident would prevent another accident by opening our eyes to the dangers of speeding,it would bring peace to his soul. Our greatest consolation to the family would be a change in our attitude.I don't drink and never plan to .But I speed for silly reasons.I feel i can safely speed because I drive a bimmer.I guess there are speed limits posted for a reason.Regardless of our degree of sobriety... I guess there is nothing like speeding safely. RIP
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01-25-2011, 08:28 PM	#143
JayeJaymes Alien 52 Rep 1,191 Posts Drives: YMB 2016 M4 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: AZ iTrader: (8) Garage List 2007 BMW 335i [0.00] 2011 M3 [0.00] 2016 M4 [0.00]	Rip fellow member, my prayers go out to your family and friends. There should be a thread with all other similar incidents on these forums for those members that have lost there life, to remember them and serve as a reminder to us all that need it. Hopefully there aren't many
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01-25-2011, 08:30 PM	#144
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01-25-2011, 08:50 PM	#146
BZTR Second Lieutenant 26 Rep 232 Posts Drives: 2021 X5, M4 Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Boston iTrader: (8)	Terrible news... RIP
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Marioalex24 Lieutenant 21 Rep 427 Posts Drives: E46 M3 Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: So Cal iTrader: (0)	RIP. That's so sad. That's why we should all be careful in driving and if we should want to drive fast then a track is always near our areas. __________________ Future car ///M2
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01-25-2011, 09:28 PM	#148
SECRET M Engineer 38 Rep 276 Posts Drives: N/A Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Northern California iTrader: (1)	very sad news, and a loss for our community. regardless of the persons behavior (safe, wreckless, drunk, or foolish), the loss of life is something i would never wish upon anyone. let's take this as a opportunity to be aware that our cars are not invincible, and as a reminder in those moments when we're faced with a decision to push harder or back off on public streets, to back off and save the fun for an appropriate venue. __________________ [Sold] 2008 BMW ///M3 :: Space Gray\|Black
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EINSER M Major General 414 Rep 5,730 Posts Drives: BMW i3 rex Join Date: May 2006 Location: SoCal iTrader: (44) Garage List 2018 I01 i3s \| CURRENT [10.00] 2018 G01 X3 \| CURRENT [10.00] 2017 I01 i3 \| SOLD [10.00] 2017 F48 X1 \| SOLD ... [0.00] 2016 I01 i3 \| SOLD [0.00] 2017 F22 M240 \| SOLD [8.00] 2016 F25 X3 diesel ... [0.00] 2006 E60 550 \| SOLD [6.00] 2011 E90 335 \| SOLD [8.66] 2012 E82 135 \| SOLD [5.50] 2011 E82 1M \| SOLD [7.94] 2007 E85 Z4M\| SOLD [4.50] 2003 E53 X5 4.6is S ... [9.00] 2008 E92 328 \| SOLD [0.00] 2008 E82 135 \| SOLD [0.00] 2008 E90 335 \| SOLD [0.00] 2003 E46 M3 \| SOLD [7.50] 2006 E90 330 \| SOLD [10.00] 2003 E46 330ZHP \| SOLD [0.00]	feel sorry for his family that's a given. regardless of impairment he was going way too fast.
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NYCMCBM3 Colonel 167 Rep 2,706 Posts Drives: 2012 MCB E92 M3 Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: South Ozone Park,NY iTrader: (13)	poor guy worked so hard to get his car , and it killed him =( RIP __________________ 2012 MCB///M3
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01-25-2011, 09:54 PM	#152
M3ltdown Master Chief 19 Rep 641 Posts Drives: 09 e90 M3 JzB Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: NOVA iTrader: (0)	RIP...very sad indeed.
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01-25-2011, 09:59 PM	#153
mike33176 Lieutenant 47 Rep 431 Posts Drives: 09 Jerez/ Black, E90 M3 Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Miami iTrader: (1)	Met him a few days ago, R.I.P. Met him a few days ago driving to the Wellington Mall, Nice Kid, SUCKS! I'm 40 and I know I'm guilty of driving after drinking a few, maybe a little too fast in the M at times and, this makes me step back and take a look. Life is too short! Whether or not he was drinking, let's all think about this next time you're even questionable about driving, I know I will!
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01-25-2011, 10:26 PM	#154
harleyAS Registered 0 Rep 3 Posts Drives: donkey Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: west palm beach, fl iTrader: (0)	dani: a wonderful friend to so many for those of you who have expressed your warm condolences, I thank you. for those of you who have passed negative harsh judgment, i ask you to please save it for another forum.. or express it on a different topic. For those of you who did not know Dani, he was a wonderful and loving person in so many ways. He was one of my dear friends, and truly special. We rode horses together, and i feel truly blessed to have had him apart of my life. He left this world way to early. Dani was a very smart, an amazing photographer, and a talented athlete...but most of all put a smile on everyone's face. He was not even a big drinker. We all dabble, and sometimes make mistakes but this is not the time to pass judgment. We still do not entirely know all the details of his passing. please let his friends, and family mourn the loss of a wonderful friend, brother, and son. He had passion for life and everyone around him. Please remember him in a positive light, like he deserves. we miss, and love u Dani.
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