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I agree. I think the new m3/m4 will attract some pretty big tuners though so I bet they crack it eventually. Time will tell!
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even if they can get a solid tune made. we might be talking years until it hits the market. |
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I believe the m3 will be cracked faster because the tuner market for the m3 is much bigger than the m5. the m3 will sell better, and owners are much more likely to mod their cars. the aftermarket companies know this. just look at the amount of parts for the e60 m5 vs e9x m3 every time a new car comes out people say the same thing about OMG its gonna be impossible to break the ECU. but guess what, it ALWAYS breaks. always
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even E90 335s took decent amount of time to get a solid tune from JB4. and you know the 335s are much mass produced than M3s. and just about every 335i car on this forums has a JB4. i will agree that i would be surprised if the M4 is completely untunedable due to BMWs OEM software. i think anyone planning on doing a down pipe-tune mods to get a 500HP M4 this year is living in la la land though. |
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My point is.... don't surprised if other names like AMS jump into the tuning scene on the new turbo M3/M4. The M platform is more desirable to tuners and should have a lot of companies concentrating on it. The m5 is more of a niche car and IMO shouldn't be used as a good comparison for how fast a tune is available for the new s55
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Everyone says they're going to crack the ECUs. Aren't the F10s using 2048-bit encryption? Do you know how much computing power it's going to take to crack that? If by some *slim* chance that someone does, it's foolish to think that BMW simply won't release another software update and simply change the key. Given that, I can imagine the F8X won't be cracked as soon as everyone thinks, b/c it will carry *at least* 2048-bit or possibly higher.
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N54 motor in that car. |
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Even if a tune is developed, the turbos make 18psi stock, its not a n54 where you can go from 8 psi stock to 19psi with just a tune. Lets hope the s55 is even half as tuneable as the n54.
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i went and listened to a few vids. just me put it in different terms. while i wont say its sounds bad. its just not my style. would rather have a vette with a 6.2L v8.
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I'm sure it will have nice gains, all turbo motors pretty much do, i'm just not so sure its n54ish gains!
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Exactly! That car has been on the market for 6 years now, and people said the same thing about it: someone will crack it eventually. Not likely. Now that the *new* IS-F is rolling out, how much effort do you think there is going to be to crack the old one? |
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Eh.. not sure what they could do to stop a piggy back. In a over simplified explanation, all the device does is connect to the ecm, intercept the signals the ecm is sending and tricks the ecm into applying more boost than is needed. Its more complicated and safer than that, but thats the basic idea. It shouldn't take long for a piggy tuner to enter the s55 game.
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Not only will the ecu be much harder to crack. I bet BMW will be even more strict with modified cars, especially now that their number one performance car has turbos. They will have new ways to detect tunes and piggy backs, whether they have been removed or not.
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In regards to your statement, "not sure what they could do to stop a piggy back", ask the F10 guys how those are working out for them. As long as you don't plan to run the car over 130ish, they work out fine. Airstrip events + limp mode = Achilles' heel. As per this previous post by Longboarder: Quote:
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