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10-14-2011, 10:29 PM | #133 |
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My judgement tells me not to participate in this thread... but here I go again...
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"Motor vehicle crashes are the leading cause of death for U.S. teens, accounting for more than one in three deaths in this age group. In 2009, eight teens ages 16 to 19 died every day from motor vehicle injuries. Per mile driven, teen drivers ages 16 to 19 are four times more likely than older drivers to crash." - Centers for Disease Control and Prevention I rotated through the Shock Trauma Center in Baltimore during my training. Predominately its associated with shootings/stabbings, your general inner city violence. But what often gets overlooked are the large number of young people that end up there in the summertime because of MVAs. In fact, I got to do my first chest tube on a teenager that got flung out of a car driven by his best friend. That's not the worst story though - the worst was standing outside of a patient's room listening to this teen bawling to her parents apologizing for an accident she caused... and she was now paralyzed from the waist down. Sorry BMW Fanatic, yes older people get into accidents too, but these numbers don't lie. Younger people are at higher risk. Quote:
So as to not totally thread jack, the best piece of advice is know your kid. You know what kind of kid she is, can she handle the responsibility of this, or any car? That's what it really comes down to. The other stuff? Doesn't really matter what people think. I may agree that getting an m3 as your first car may be a bit much, but hell, if I was offered it I would take it when I was 16. And giving an m3 to an otherwise good kid isn't going to turn them into a snobbish jaggoff that expects the world handed to them on a platter. Let me just say that the biggest confidence booster in my life was being able to score dates while driving a twelve year old 1984 Subaru Wagon that you could hear from a mile away. Never had a problem with women since... Last edited by doc19; 10-14-2011 at 11:00 PM.. |
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10-14-2011, 10:54 PM | #135 |
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ABSOLUTELY NOT if you love your child. Just watched a report this morning showing teens and their distracted driving habits (they have a lot more distractions between Tweets, IM, FB updates, etc. all behind the wheel.) We may think our kids are responsible when we're with them but the report I saw this morning shows how even the best kids behavior changes for the worst when a parent isn't in the car and degrades much further if you add another teen in the car.
A M3 is a recipe for disaster - primarily to the health of the child and those around him/her and secondarily to your financial health (you'd be shocked at the size of the lawsuit you're going to face when your teen plows into someone in a BMW and a M3 no less!) My son is 15 now and we'll be looking for a safe reliable barely-fast-enough-to-get-out-of-its-own-way Volvo. He wants an older S40 and I'm thinking much older brick - 240! |
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10-15-2011, 03:16 PM | #136 |
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honestly not a big deal..
every child's different my first car was w204 mb c350.. 2nd was e92 dinan m3 i'm turning 20 in november although i agree with everything you guys have to say and the difference is that i actually know how to drive my fathers been teaching me to drive for as long as i can remember and a lot of teenagers i admit are incredibly stupid and immature |
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10-15-2011, 03:33 PM | #137 |
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I would agree it may not be the best idea, but not to the point where I completely hate it. Nowadays, ANY car is capable of going 80mph+, enough to seriously injure or (God forbid) kill anyone in the car and in front of it. Yes, an M3 is very fast but wouldn't you guys feel good knowing that your child is driving in a car that will never flip over like an SUV or spin out like some tail-happy honda? A car that has superior technology to assure great safety? Of course, all this only applies when your child has learned to RESPECT the power of the car, not abuse it. The car is a privilege, not a right. After teaching your child this, he or she will be just as much as a cautious driver as any other given person on the road. It's O.K. to have fun and still be safe. And, as you probably already taught your daughter, never to flaunt the car, because in reality being humble will make her stay out of trouble (I have a whole different story on this if it's needed)
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To walk into a six-figure job right out of college is not commomplace unless you happen to be an entrepreneur or in an existing family business. Law and medicine both require doctoral degrees. Business requires an MBA at the least. Very few PhD jobs will start you at these salaries even after grad school. So while they are there, I would love to know where they are so commonplace. In fact, I think a basic 4-year college degree gets you less than it used to. Your kids having it better than you materially is okay to a point. After that point, having more material goods can actually be detrimental to the development of their character, expectations from life, etc. So yes, if you work in a hard labor job, and you aspire for your child to become a professional, that is fine, but at some point, having it "better" is not better. There is also a HUGE span between a "beater" and an M3 which is one of the premium performance cars on the market today. Even you are affluent and want to give your kid something nice, how about a Civic, Jetta, Golf, or even like a used 128i. These are certainly not beaters but they are reasonable cars for the kids of an affluent person.
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10-15-2011, 05:31 PM | #142 |
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Ummmm in my case, I drove my mom's 325i when I was 18. had X5 35I as my first car at 19 in college.(my parents think SUV should keep me safe). and now I am 20, getting a 2012 E92 M3(at VPC). I never had any accident, and will not drive crazy on the street, so they think it is ok to let me have my dream car.
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On another note, I think the perfect car if you have the money for a 16 year old is a 328/128i. It is very snazzy and nice, safe and new and has a perfect amount of power IMO. Fast enough to be very fun for a first car but not so much power that you can get into trouble very easily. Of course any car can get you killed but I like this as a compromise if I had kids and had the money I would go this route. Also a nice audi a4 would be reasonable. Even a 335 is way too much for a kid and probably almost worse than an m3 given the ability to reach its full power much easier than an m3.
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agree with you completely. i never open up my car outside of the proper track/roads the majority of kids these days think they're speed racer lol people try and provoke me all the time but i just have to be the bigger person |
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I never buy my kid (specially my son) an expensive car. He better works hard for his car. I think one of the reasons that I love my car is that I worked so hard for it.
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It wasn't the expression on her face that was funny, it was the words that came out of her mouth... Something like “I don’t want that piece of $hit.”
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I understand this, but you clearly don't understand the circumstances OP is under...He already has the M3, maybe he doesn't feel like spending 40+k on a first car for his child...
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i don't think you guys understand how much smarter younger people are nowadays..
who says you can't make money when you're young? there's plenty of ways to make money through finance and real estate we're already millionaires through stocks and whatnot in fact my buddy just bought his mom a SL63 AMG for her birthday with the money he made off of stocks my other friends got $500,000 in microsoft stocks not to mention we all have our real estate licences |
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