Track forum general chit chat.

e36clubracer · 10-15-2020, 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by derbo

Absolutely not. The BBS RE1535 (BBS GT4) is no longer in stock with BBS Motorsports. The last shop to buy the remaining set was Y Motorsports. They suggested I contact them to buy the wheel. They didn't explicitly say the rim was damage or anything. Just gave me the contact information of that shop and saying they are out of stock.

My apologies, I misunderstood. I thought you were running BBS RIAs.

XKxRome0ox · 10-15-2020, 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by SYT_Shadow

The OEM 18"s of the F8X M car is pure, unadultered sex. I love it. That it's forged is just icing on the cake

i'm in total agreement with you
18", forged, light weight, and good looking
i was surprised that people were selling these off at decent price when i bought them

i think they are not as easy to find for sale these days

derbo · 10-15-2020, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by e36clubracer

My apologies, I misunderstood. I thought you were running BBS RIAs.

No worries!

dparm · 10-15-2020, 12:53 PM

Everyone always jumps straight to 359s but I always liked the 219 & 260 wheels just as much. The 513s are sharp too.

//steve\\ · 10-15-2020, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by dparm

Everyone always jumps straight to 359s but I always liked the 219 & 260 wheels just as much. The 513s are sharp too.

513M is a great looking wheel but something about them looks out of place to me on the E9x. I think if they had been 19s they'd look like they belong. I prefer 18s myself but the 513M look like a really small 18.

slcook54 · 10-15-2020, 02:52 PM

Anyone running Litespeed wheels? These came up while searching for Forgelines and caught my eye.

dparm · 10-15-2020, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by slcook54

Anyone running Litespeed wheels? These came up while searching for Forgelines and caught my eye.

Competition Motorsport out of Austin, a NASA sponsor, carries them. Price starts at $1300/wheel for that GT10 in 18", depending on options. For that price you are within 10% of Forgeline who has the race pedigree.

Finspeed is about 15% less than Litespeed for what appears to be equivalent quality.

tsk94 · 10-15-2020, 04:05 PM

I would NEVER spend that much money on track wheels - just get some Titan 7, BW TA5R or the forged BW wheels for ~1600-2200$ a SET.

If you have the money to burn then sure, why not. But there's a lot of things I'd rather spend my money on then a set a wheels that costs 2x as much for a wheel that's MAYBE 5% better. Put the money towards track time, coaching, tires or better suspension - something that will actually be worth your money lol.

dparm · 10-15-2020, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by tsk94

I would NEVER spend that much money on track wheels - just get some Titan 7, BW TA5R or the forged BW wheels for ~1600-2200$ a SET.

If you have the money to burn then sure, why not. But there's a lot of things I'd rather spend my money on then a set a wheels that costs 2x as much for a wheel that's MAYBE 5% better. Put the money towards track time, coaching, tires or better suspension - something that will actually be worth your money lol.

The Bimmerword wheels are pretty compelling, and seem to be race-proven. Definitely a great buy. Not the prettiest wheel, but maybe that doesn't matter to some. :-)

tsk94 · 10-15-2020, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by dparm

The Bimmerword wheels are pretty compelling, and seem to be race-proven. Definitely a great buy. Not the prettiest wheel, but maybe that doesn't matter to some. :-)

They look a whole lot better then most of these expensive Forgeline, Finspeed and Litespeed wheels - but that's also subjective, but I know many would agree as well.

tsk94 · 10-15-2020, 04:44 PM

The only wheel I've ever broke was a 3-piece BBS on my old E36 race car. I've used tons of cheap (relative to the wheels we're talking about) flow-formed wheels over the years, on many different cars and had no issues.

Yes these more expensive options are stronger, but they can still bend/break. When we're in the territory of talking about a wheel that costs what a SET of APEX or similar flow formed wheels costs I just don't think it makes sense for track use. If someone has the money to justify a 4-5k set of track wheels then right on. But for most it makes no sense. It's not like bending/breaking wheels is a common occurrence to begin with. You can replace A LOT of bent flow formed wheels and still be way under the price of some of these other wheels we're talking about. And again, the Forgelines and co. can still bend, they are just a bit stronger in comparison.

kyippee · 10-15-2020, 06:08 PM

Agreed; that's why I've been sticking with lower-end forged wheels. I'll probably do something stupid like running over that bad bump, where any wheel would probably get damaged.

turbo_joe · 10-15-2020, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by kyippee

Agreed; that's why I've been sticking with lower-end forged wheels. I'll probably do something stupid like running over that bad bump, where any wheel would probably get damaged.

x2 on going with the cheaper forged wheels. I love my forged APEX's and have hit plenty of curbs this season. And their replacement program is an added bonus.

slcook54 · 10-15-2020, 09:06 PM

In terms of strength, are Titan7 > Apex Forged?

cc: berns

kyippee · 10-15-2020, 11:53 PM

I think they're similar. In my earlier post with the wheel bend I noted that both titan 7 wheels on my friend's car and my apex forged wheels bent on the same spot, same track, same day.

rhyary · 10-16-2020, 05:53 AM

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Originally Posted by kyippee

I think they're similar. In my earlier post with the wheel bend I noted that both titan 7 wheels on my friend's car and my apex forged wheels bent on the same spot, same track, same day.

The two of you should talk to each other. Who hit that spot first?
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jk

turbo_joe · 10-16-2020, 06:46 AM

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Originally Posted by slcook54

In terms of strength, are Titan7 > Apex Forged?

I would guess they are about the same in terms of strength but APEX has a better range of sizes/offsets/finsihes. At least since last time I looked at Titans, they could have added more to their lineup though.

In that price range I think you just pick what you like and offers the fitment you need.

turbo_joe · 10-16-2020, 07:10 AM

Anyone going to the NASA event Oct 31 - Nov 1 at Summit? I am going but this will be my first event with NASA

dparm · 10-16-2020, 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by slcook54

In terms of strength, are Titan7 > Apex Forged?

cc: berns

A lot of these cheaper forged wheels are coming out of the same factories, they're just private labeled. Assuming there was someone reasonably competent doing FEA, the strength is probably similar.

SYT_Shadow · 10-16-2020, 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by tsk94

They look a whole lot better then most of these expensive Forgeline, Finspeed and Litespeed wheels - but that's also subjective, but I know many would agree as well.

I couldn't agree more. I was almost sick the first time I saw forgelines on an F8X.

Kelse92 · 10-16-2020, 09:16 AM

I just want to give a quick shoutout to KW in here if anybody is still running Clubsports like I am. Sent mine off to get rebuilt on October 1st and they arrived and were inspected by KW October 8th and I was given a 10-15 business day turnaround time for the rebuild...
Well, I'm happy to report my card got charged on the 12th and they arrived back to me today. Pretty impressive they weren't too backed up to get the rebuild itself knocked out in really only a couple of days. I guess under-promising and over-delivering makes me a happy camper! 12-days total turnaround time including shipping is certainly nice.
Only thing I'm not happy about is that they didn't send me a tracking number and my parts just happened to show up at my doorstep.

I'm just ready to drive my car again!

tsk94 · 10-16-2020, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Kelse92

I just want to give a quick shoutout to KW in here if anybody is still running Clubsports like I am. Sent mine off to get rebuilt on October 1st and they arrived and were inspected by KW October 8th and I was given a 10-15 business day turnaround time for the rebuild...
Well, I'm happy to report my card got charged on the 12th and they arrived back to me today. Pretty impressive they weren't too backed up to get the rebuild itself knocked out in really only a couple of days. I guess under-promising and over-delivering makes me a happy camper! 12-days total turnaround time including shipping is certainly nice.
Only thing I'm not happy about is that they didn't send me a tracking number and my parts just happened to show up at my doorstep.

I'm just ready to drive my car again!

I believe you were thinking of getting them revalved a while back, did you end up getting KW to revalve them or just got them rebuilt?

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tsk94 Lieutenant Colonel 1727 Rep 1,716 Posts Drives: E92 M3, E82 128i, F82 M4, E36 Join Date: May 2017 Location: Calgary iTrader: (2)	I would NEVER spend that much money on track wheels - just get some Titan 7, BW TA5R or the forged BW wheels for ~1600-2200$ a SET. If you have the money to burn then sure, why not. But there's a lot of things I'd rather spend my money on then a set a wheels that costs 2x as much for a wheel that's MAYBE 5% better. Put the money towards track time, coaching, tires or better suspension - something that will actually be worth your money lol.
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tsk94 Lieutenant Colonel 1727 Rep 1,716 Posts Drives: E92 M3, E82 128i, F82 M4, E36 Join Date: May 2017 Location: Calgary iTrader: (2)	The only wheel I've ever broke was a 3-piece BBS on my old E36 race car. I've used tons of cheap (relative to the wheels we're talking about) flow-formed wheels over the years, on many different cars and had no issues. Yes these more expensive options are stronger, but they can still bend/break. When we're in the territory of talking about a wheel that costs what a SET of APEX or similar flow formed wheels costs I just don't think it makes sense for track use. If someone has the money to justify a 4-5k set of track wheels then right on. But for most it makes no sense. It's not like bending/breaking wheels is a common occurrence to begin with. You can replace A LOT of bent flow formed wheels and still be way under the price of some of these other wheels we're talking about. And again, the Forgelines and co. can still bend, they are just a bit stronger in comparison. Last edited by tsk94; 10-15-2020 at 04:57 PM..
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