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      04-22-2009, 01:59 PM   #111
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Pricing reflects 11 months of R&D to create the best LED angel eye on the market. They aren't cheap, but we did not intend on creating something that was for everyone, that you would see on every single e92 out there. We are taking studio shots of the product later today and will post those asap for you guys. We have 3 sets of these left then we are sold out until late May.
it took 11 months to R&D this??
the only reason each generation of LED bulbs are better is simply time
when the RD LEDs were first made they did not have 10w LEDs
now by the time this new one is out
they have 20W LEDS
so its not neccesairly R&D as much as the LEDs being out on the market
its not like these are very different from the RD ones
i am sure the resistors and connectors are almost exact
so the only difference is the actual LED
and no matter how good these are
soon enough someone will come out with the 20w ones
and we'll have to fork out another $300 for the latest ones

and as for the M tax
the 10w LED bulbs are around $15 each
2 per side per bulb = 4 bulbs
total cost is 60$
add to that the resistors and connectors
say another $40
the M tax is about $150 on this one
and i'm giving 50% profit margin
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      04-22-2009, 02:11 PM   #112
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and as for the M tax
the 10w LED bulbs are around $15 each
2 per side per bulb = 4 bulbs
total cost is 60$
add to that the resistors and connectors
say another $40
the M tax is about $150 on this one
and i'm giving 50% profit margin
Highway robbery!
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      04-22-2009, 03:26 PM   #113
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I'm in the market for LED angel eyes, but not at that price.
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      04-22-2009, 03:33 PM   #114
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it took 11 months to R&D this??
the only reason each generation of LED bulbs are better is simply time
when the RD LEDs were first made they did not have 10w LEDs
now by the time this new one is out
they have 20W LEDS
so its not neccesairly R&D as much as the LEDs being out on the market
its not like these are very different from the RD ones
i am sure the resistors and connectors are almost exact
so the only difference is the actual LED
and no matter how good these are
soon enough someone will come out with the 20w ones
and we'll have to fork out another $300 for the latest ones

and as for the M tax
the 10w LED bulbs are around $15 each
2 per side per bulb = 4 bulbs
total cost is 60$
add to that the resistors and connectors
say another $40
the M tax is about $150 on this one
and i'm giving 50% profit margin
The resistors on the RD unit is the main cause for it to be dim. If they solved that problem by using a constant current driver that will adapt to the voltage change when the headlights are turned ON/OFF, that's quite a bit of R&D. So, don't jump to conclusions that quickly.
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      04-22-2009, 03:38 PM   #115
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it took 11 months to R&D this??
the only reason each generation of LED bulbs are better is simply time
when the RD LEDs were first made they did not have 10w LEDs
now by the time this new one is out
they have 20W LEDS
so its not neccesairly R&D as much as the LEDs being out on the market
its not like these are very different from the RD ones
i am sure the resistors and connectors are almost exact
so the only difference is the actual LED
and no matter how good these are
soon enough someone will come out with the 20w ones
and we'll have to fork out another $300 for the latest ones

and as for the M tax
the 10w LED bulbs are around $15 each
2 per side per bulb = 4 bulbs
total cost is 60$
add to that the resistors and connectors
say another $40
the M tax is about $150 on this one
and i'm giving 50% profit margin


The main issue was not getting 10W LED, but it is the issue that nearly every single company has had when creating the e92 angel eye kits: uniform brightness on both the inner and outer ring. These are machined out of aluminum, and takes countless hours of re-designs until we finally got it perfect. It's just not as easy as you make it out to be unfortunately.
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      04-22-2009, 03:44 PM   #116
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Please post up some pictures of the actual product. Is your shop open to the public so I can come down and take a look? if so can you PM me your address

TIA
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      04-22-2009, 04:11 PM   #117
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yes, feel free to come by and take a look. PM me if you are coming by today, with a time, so I can make sure I am here to show you the car

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      04-22-2009, 05:36 PM   #118
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These are machined out of aluminum, and takes countless hours of re-designs until we finally got it perfect.
Any reason you won't post up a pic of the product so we can see what you're talking about? I love the idea of being able to have both rings uniformly lit, but want to know what $300 gets you.
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      04-22-2009, 05:57 PM   #119
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yes, feel free to come by and take a look. PM me if you are coming by today, with a time, so I can make sure I am here to show you the car

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Thanks...are you open on Saturday's? Im located in Redondo so wouldnt be able to get there tell late afternoons due to work.

At your location, do you do installs of the unit? if so how much is the install

TIA
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      04-22-2009, 06:08 PM   #120
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Thanks...are you open on Saturday's? Im located in Redondo so wouldnt be able to get there tell late afternoons due to work.

At your location, do you do installs of the unit? if so how much is the install

TIA

we aren't open on Saturdays, but we usually stay here until about 6 on the weekdays. We can install these for you at no cost if you are to order a set from this initial shipment.
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      04-22-2009, 07:02 PM   #121
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Tom will be posting pics of the package when he gets back in the country
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      04-22-2009, 07:26 PM   #122
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I think my set is arriving on Friday. I will be happy to post pictures of the kit if that is before Tom gets back.
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      04-22-2009, 07:59 PM   #123
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      04-22-2009, 09:57 PM   #124
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I think my set is arriving on Friday. I will be happy to post pictures of the kit if that is before Tom gets back.
Post some pics when you get it.
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      04-23-2009, 08:41 AM   #125
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These are very nice, I might get them. By the way what's so bad about GP Thunder bulbs? Not comparing just curious.
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      04-23-2009, 10:02 AM   #126
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These are very nice, I might get them. By the way what's so bad about GP Thunder bulbs? Not comparing just curious.
You simply get what you pay for - the GP Thunders are merely colored bulbs and do not fix the uneven lighting in the rings.

The AiBs exhibit very little heat, produce no errors and being LED-based, will last much longer than any halogen bulb.
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      04-23-2009, 12:40 PM   #127
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I am just going to keep hammering this...

Want to sell a ton of these that folks will be happy with both before and after their purchase?

Post pics in medium to bright sun of stock vs. GP Thunder vs. your kit (and perhaps vs. Camaross305's HID kit). They certainly do not have too be as bright as Camaross305's kit to be a big winner.

Please... pretty please!
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      04-23-2009, 01:04 PM   #128
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I am just going to keep hammering this...

Want to sell a ton of these that folks will be happy with both before and after their purchase?

Post pics in medium to bright sun of stock vs. GP Thunder vs. your kit (and perhaps vs. Camaross305's HID kit). They certainly do not have too be as bright as Camaross305's kit to be a big winner.

Please... pretty please!

Here are some pics for now, dont have enough time at this moment to switch all the bulbs around.

Angel iBright Vs. Stock OEM bulbs:



Angel iBright Vs. GP Thunders:


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do you have any pics where stock or GPs are getting full voltage? Not when parking lamps or headlights are on for comparison? I'm pretty interested in this product just want more info.
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do you have any pics where stock or GPs are getting full voltage? Not when parking lamps or headlights are on for comparison? I'm pretty interested in this product just want more info.
in the picture of the titanium silver e92, my car was turned on with engine running if thats what you mean
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Here are some pics for now, dont have enough time at this moment to switch all the bulbs around.
Thanks for those Brandon. The issue is that LEDs have been traditionally very weak in direct sunlight or bright conditions. The vast majority of the pics EAS keeps posting shows the new LEDs and comparisons in shadow, overcast or downright dim conditions. It could appear that you are trying to hide something. I am very much behind this product, appreciate the optical/engineering challenge to get uniform brightness and love the plug and play type of solution. The price is steep, but if the pics I keep asking for look good this will probably be not only for me, but a big winner overall. A single favorable picture, as I have been asking for, will silence the vast majority of requests for pics and any doubts about the product

Thanks again.
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Thanks for those Brandon. The issue is that LEDs have been traditionally very weak in direct sunlight or bright conditions. The vast majority of the pics EAS keeps posting shows the new LEDs and comparisons in shadow, overcast or downright dim conditions. It could appear that you are trying to hide something. I am very much behind this product, appreciate the optical/engineering challenge to get uniform brightness and love the plug and play type of solution. The price is steep, but if the pics I keep asking for look good this will probably be not only for me, but a big winner overall. A single favorable picture, as I have been asking for, will silence the vast majority of requests for pics and any doubts about the product

Thanks again.

totally understandable. We have some pics shot with the sun literally hitting the headlights dead on, but the only problem is that you cant tell if it is sunlight that is lighting the ring, or if its the LED, since they are both 5500k in color temp.
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