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01-18-2012, 05:52 PM | #113 | |
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Here's the relevant question I've yet to see asked. How many kits have all of Supercharger companies sold? How many documented failures do we know about? How many M3's have been sold vs. how many failures? I think it's a fair question and the fact that ESS has sold hundreds of kits without these types of failures, should answer some of those questions and let people feel a little more secure that it's unlikely they may have a failure stock or if their supercharger kit has a good history of units sold vs. failures.
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01-18-2012, 05:55 PM | #114 | |
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If I'm reading this correctly, you think he missed an upshift from 4th to 5th and downshifted to 3rd instead? He would have had to be near redline in 4th at full throttle, attempting to bang it into 5th, but instead slipped it into 3rd, dumped the clutch, and dropped the hammer. Forget 8700, wouldn't that have broken the damn needle of the gauge? You wrote 8705+, what does that mean exactly? How long was the car at 36% throttle? An instant during the shift? |
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01-18-2012, 06:05 PM | #115 |
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01-18-2012, 06:05 PM | #116 | |
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I don't know the exact # of how many units others have sold vs. failures, I can tell you it's probably not in the 300's based on forum traffic, but some believe that means nothing. I certainly think other companies are capable of developing great SC'r kits, but I would say that # is very low. Active has been doing this a long time, no reason to doubt their abilities based on this one failure, and I'm not sure who's fault the failure really is, we need more info, and frankly it's no one's business unless they chose to share it with us.
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01-18-2012, 06:09 PM | #117 | |
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Lol i have been sure about my kit since the day i bought it. People can say other wise about someone else motor with the ess kit which people rarely speak of why is that? Oh i know the Non-disclourse agreement.
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I never questioned your certainty about your choice, knocked your kit or AA here, I merely stated a fact, you took it the wrong way AK. As far as the 2nd part of your statement, I have no clue what you are referring too.
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01-18-2012, 06:21 PM | #120 |
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Yep, I've done that before with my previous 350Z and I understand that it usually happens that way. Fortunately, in my case, everything held on. The reason for my post is that they're explanation is confusing and potentially contradictory. The seem to suggest that the car was decelerating and the owner missed a downshift which is the most common misshift. But then at the same time, they make it seem like he missed an upshift, which is harder to do, especially when it's 5th. I'm just looking for some clarification from AA on what their theory actually is. If it jives, that's the last nail in the OP's coffin, for me at least.
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People i know who had money shifts told me it occured on downshifts. Thry moved the shift lever too far to the left passing the gate for the desired gear.
I guess the OP didnt even move the shifter to the right or maybe he didn't bleed off enough rpm before goin into 3rd when slowing down. |
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01-18-2012, 07:41 PM | #122 |
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I would have to agree Akash...i think you took drew's post the wrong way. Just MHO though. I thought his post was on point, well written and informative and in no way was he trying to throw out an ess endorsement.
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01-18-2012, 08:58 PM | #127 | |
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Let's not forget about my hot Laps what ESS motor are you referring too ? |
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01-18-2012, 09:03 PM | #128 | |
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That being said, Active has always taken care of what needs to be taken care of in my experience. Without question or compromise. I can't say the same for any other tuner, on any platform. The only one I have zero experience with would be Gintani, and I have no interest in doing so. Active has been around a long time and continues to break new ground. It's a great thing for the tuner community and promotes out of the box thinking of what can and can't be done. Plenty of others have had occasional failures, there's no question about that. To any one who wants to play, be ready to pay. Period. Thanks for getting in here Andrew! |
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I don't have much time to elaborate on everything, due to time constraints but will tomorrow. Maybe you should speak with your former sales staff who recommended I return back to stock. Also, in 6th gear to run a top speed it will certainly do 198mph.
The rest of the allegations "Andrew" imposed will be addressed tomorrow. I have a pregnant wife and I must go. I will include more details tomorrow. And as for the thought of me "money shifting" it, that is 100% untrue and will remain that way until I die. Anyone who has ridden in a car with me knows I backhand from 3rd to 4th and have NEVER "money shifted" a car. More elaboration to everything tomorrow. Thanks |
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01-18-2012, 09:31 PM | #132 |
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Got it. So the evidence shows that Jordan Russ is dishonest. Check.
This reminds me of that line in True Romance: "Now, what we got here is a little game of show and tell. You don't wanna show me nothing but you're telling me everything." |
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