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Pricing I got was $4,699 for the front 6 piston and $4,199 for the rear 4 piston. Pad thickness is 25mm front and 20mm rears.
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I agree that's a little annoying but rotation isn't a big deal IMO. My AP kits have been flawless. I don't find the pad thickness to be an issue but I'm not on track as much as you and when I am I don't double duty the car. Too busy trying to build a business or 2
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That is not 'flawless'. It is clearly a flaw that requires you to perform additional work to solve. On my PFC kit I put a set of pads on and don't touch them again until they are worn, and they wear properly. That is what I call flawless. Flawless = absence of flaws Every single time someone performs work on a car, whether it's removing wheels or pads or whatever, there is possibility for error. The amount of taper on the Ap RadiCal kit is what I'd expect from base stoptech brakes. If the brakes cost 2k I'd think it's pretty bad. Costing 4k it is unacceptable. Some people may feel double-dutying a car is too extreme, but that's the whole point of the top-shelf brake kits. And it's something at least one other kit can just shrug off like it nothing happened.
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Are these the Alcons you got from BW? CR6420 (front) PFC 01 25mm thick pads 380mm slotted rotor CAR4949 (rear) PFC 332 20mm thick pads 343mm slotted rotor What made you go with these over PFC? What are there solving that AP isn't?
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I'm not changing the brakes of the E90, that's the full pfc kit. I'm replacing the ones on the F80 CS which has pfc front and ap radical rear with the alcon full kit. Pfc does not have an f8x kit at all. My brother and i spent a few months working in solidworks and 3d printing samples to finally get the e9x front pfc kit, the z54, into the f8x. There it has worked flawlessly, after all, the e90 stroker with the full pfc setup is faster than the CS. For the rear of the f8x we got the Ap Radicals as many have said they were top shelf kits. After the 2019 season i was tired of the taper wear and was ready to adapt the pfc rear e9x kit to the f8x, but then the alcons came out and they are plug and play. What i expect from the alcons is the same performance from the pfc but more durability. Pfc durability was great, but the alcon has a much beefier (and heavier) front rotor so i expect it'll last longer.
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The pfc pads are flat. I have every pad i've ever used. Between every pfc pad put together i have less taper than 4 pads out of the ap kit. |
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I put together a quick video on the MCS 4way high/low speed adjustments as I hadn't seen it shown anywhere else. I specifically showed the rear shocks as its a pretty trick mechanism that MCS designed.
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One of my favorite things about them is that both adjustments are right there in the same place AND you don't have to lay under the car to change anything which to me is a very nice perk.
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I'm dropping the car off on Wednesday for install but won't be able to pick it up for about a week. I wish I had the time to do it myself right now but with my schedule that is not happening. Either way, I can't wait!
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To clarify, this is the design of the 2WNR on the F8X generation, not the E9X |
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The MCS 4 ways have been installed. Yes its stiff, but its honestly not bad at all. I've driven it a handful of times on my work commute 25 miles each way and its been a joy to drive even with shitty CA roads.
I did a bunch of dialing of the shock settings so far for street I landed on this - Front Rebound HS - 8 Front Rebond LS - 8 Front Compression HS - 9 Front Compression LS - 9 Rear Rebound HS - 8 Rear Rebound LS - 8 Rear Compression HS - 8 Rear Compression LS - 8 These are a bit different than what BW recommended. I figure once I get on track I'll likely turn these up. Spring rates are - 6" - 800 # Front 8" - 1100 # Rear (divorced) Also at the same time I installed - Hotchkis sway bars set to full stiff up front and full soft out back to start Solid rear subframe bushings Front control arm bushings Rear lower control arm bushings Bimmerworld performance engine mounts (stock were already tearing @62k miles) It is an amazingly drastic change from before. I had to completely re-adjust my expectations of what the car could do from the stock shocks and H&R race springs from before.
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I want 3-ways only because you say they are that much better than the 2WNR and I'm already very very happy with them.
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