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Nah sport. I'm not wasting my time. You repeatedly state your opinion as fact and YOU repeatedly bring politics into it. Frankly it was a momentary lapse in judgement to give you any merit by even responding to you. I must say though, that invitation (challenge even???) to meet you on the politics forum is tempting. Your clearly advanced intellect is intimidating though. How can I possibly trade jabs with someone who uses the word slurper?? No defense for zingers like that! You are insinuating that because one disagrees with your political opinions that person must be metaphorically giving Obama oral sex. Brilliant and unassailable. I bow to your superior mind! 'Merikka. F*%# yeah! |
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Looks-wise, I like the Turbo and GT2 most! I find the wing on the GT3/RS to be way too large and kinda ricey.
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11-03-2012, 12:27 AM | #94 | |
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If you can sling a 991S around Nurburgring at a 7:40 my hats off to you...don't think you can and therefore as I said..a moot point. I'm not debating the capabilities of the 991S, maybe you didn't read my post.. I would rather have one...just not at the price point it is being offered. Unless my financial means take a real good change for the positive. Would love to have one. I just don't see it in the cards right away. As far as the GT3 being a big step up...well of course now we are talking a car that is close to $40-50k more than a new E92 M3 with PCCbs and the like. My favorite car is a GT3, just wish it had back seats . So let me clarify...I LOVE THE 991S, just don't feel its worth the money. Dave
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I love the gt variants and would buy one in a second if I could, but would still be difficult to ditch my M. I also like how the engine is in the front which keeps it less darty than a Porsche. The M is always comfortable to drive fast. A big advantage in my opinion and exactly what I want. |
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Quoting Ring time is pretty pointless in my opinion. Nobody knows how the cars were prep for the run and there are too many variables especially when it's such a long track. I only take timings clocked by skilled drivers on the same track on the same day in a shoot out seriously. The cars in question should also be in showroom spec and not some track tires. I find it ridiculous for anyone to keep blowing the trumpet on cars that are so much more expensive. Of course they should be faster for that money!
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^This is the best course of action. Me either...
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I loved my M3 but wanted to try something different. Loved the 991 but for that price could get a GT3RS which I did. Totally different animal. Have not tracked yet but that is what this car is for.
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Magazine racing aside, Ive been at the drap strip around here, and Atco and Englishtown are two of the fastest tracks in the country and Ive never seen a real world M3 stock trap more than 110 mph or so. Ive actually seen 991S' trapping 117 stock. That IS a huge jump in performance (7 mph in trap speed) just on the straight line front not to mention what happens when looking at track times. Even a FBO M3 with DCT will only trap about 116-117 and be in line with a stock 991S. You cant say that isnt very significant. I never claimed I could personally run a 991S at 7:40, but you couldnt drive an m3 to an 8:05 either. I do know I would still be much faster in a 991S than an M3 or m3 GTS for that matter. Granted the price is not cheap, but well worth it for the huge performance, the quality that is unmatched (except for maybe 2 or 3 other car makers out there) and a car that is as highly regarded as it is. The fact that this car has GT3 performance for less $$ is damn good. The 30K difference is more than justified when all things are considered IMO...just ask those who have switch from the M3 to the 991S and confirm this in spades not only on the price justification but in performance. 20 mph on the same corners in the 991S over an M3 is beyond huge. In order to get the performance of this car, other than buying a gtr, z06 or GT500, youre not going to get this type of performance in the 991S for less money (new vs new) and none of those will give you the same experience or quality. I dont doubt you love the car, but you are probably the only person I know who would say the performance increase is incremental rather than the massive step up it is. Again, the next gen M3 will be lucky if it can match the 991S (in a straight, wont touch track times) when it comes out in 2 years. If its not worth whatever it comes to in price per you spec, no prob, but that doesnt deny the performance difference being quite significant. |
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Well said wolf, I was a little surprised at Dave's use of the term incremental when comparing the performance of the 991S to the M3, although he later makes it clear that to him, it is not $35k or so of a difference.
I would also suggest to wait for the new Cayman S, it looks like it will make a great track car. Price wise, I have always felt that people that buy an M3 would be more inclined to cross shop a Cayman S since they are at a similar price point. That is unless you need more than two seats! Dave Former car: 2007 335i JB3 |
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I'm not arguing or debating you on the rest of it...for me it just isn't worth that much of a difference. If I have that kind of disposable income, then I would love to get one, just the M3 really is the sweet spot when it comes to this kind of car. In my opinion, your opinion may vary. Once again, I love the 991 and the 997.2 variety in any model. When it comes to me getting another PCar again it will have to be the 991S. Just once again I have to be in position to own such a car, again. Dave
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