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Exactly. On a "regular" car, that alternator would've been a couple hundred bucks to replace. People on this forum like to preach about how bullet proof this platform is other than rod bearings and throttle actuators. That may be the case for some, especially those with low mileage, but it's certainly not a universal truth. The reality is that it's still a German sports car and when (not if) basic things break they cost quite a bit to fix. Let alone when more advanced parts/sensors that are specific to the M3 decide to go. A warranty is a very wise investment for an aging used M3 based on my experience. But by all means, let's keep pretending these cars are as reliable as a Camry and everything can be fixed at Big Mo's Auto Repair on the cheap.
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Changing bearings is not going to eliminate the damaging vibrations and while worn bearings do lead to eventual failure that example shows it was not the first thing that failed. Last edited by Rajmun340; 10-03-2017 at 05:28 PM.. |
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May I ask what are you basing this on? Not sure how you can conclude BMW's engine roadmap was impacted because of a few blown S65's. Modular design is driven a combination of scalability, cost, and emissions. Its a highly strung performance engine. Every performance car has issues. Just ask Porsche about IMS bearings... |
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Sure there are some who overpay for coverage and are unlikely to come out on top but there are also plenty of others who paid $500/yr and have a good chance of coming out ahead after a couple repairs. Passing on a warranty is a good idea if there isn’t a reasonably priced option available, but to say they are never a good idea due to this car being “bulletproof” is foolish.
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thats when i decided...No more german hot rods with out a warranty! Iam almost at a year of ownership and ended up having RB's replaced and 4 vanos solenoids under warranty, also recently my NAV screen is starting to go bad . we'll see how this plays out. |
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Warranties are for, in my opinion, unanticipated unaffordable catastrophic failures. I can’t for the life of me think why the purchase of a warranty is inconsistent with fixing a problem you suspect. A warranty is not an investment, at least not in the sense that you are expecting to or entitled to get your money back.
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TA's, water pumps, gaskets, alternators, etc can be replaced under warranty as they fail. For a major item like rod bearings which have a known fix that prevents total engine failure, it would be foolish to not to perform the maintenance if you had the means- warranty or not. As stated above... A warranty is not an investment that you should expect to get a 100% return on. Although it works out that way for many M3 owners, it's twisted thinking to forego one because you think you might not. It's like any other insurance. Nobody likes paying for it, but if you have a claim you'll be glad you have it. |
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I guess my approach would be to let coverage protect the car until you coverage expires and then get the work done out of pocket.
I am currently driving a cpo 2013 e9x with almost 27k miles. This expires in 20 months. The BMW bumper to bumper cpo would have cost $6k for two years and aftermarket bumper to bumper would be $5k for four years. I hope you're not saying you would run out and do bearings and actuators while the car is still cpo and also get aftermarket warranty. |
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Rod bearings, definitely yes. Even if I had a warranty I would not want to endure the stress, frustration, unknowns, and down time of having them fail and having to replace the engine. (And you'd still be in the same boat ending up with another S65 that would need to have them upgraded anyway). It's a $2000 service. M3 owners shouldn't balk over a $2k service that can save their original engine. I don't see why this is becoming such a discussion. To me it's a no-brainer, but then again I work with these every day and there is no doubt that RB's are a ticking time bomb in these engines. I'm a preventative maintenance advocate. Some people are not and will drive their cars till the wheels fall off before paying for any maintenance. Then there are plenty in between. To each their own. |
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This is how you should look at it. Its insurance, and its pretty poorly leveraged insurance if you compare it to other things like your auto or homeowners policy. In those cases you have exposure to potential catastrophic risk that you can't avoid, which you are covering with relatively low premiums. With these car warranties, you're covering non-catastrophic events with high premiums. It's a suckers bet at the end of the day; they capitalize on the fear and lack of knowledge inherent in the majority of car owners. A lot of people will pay up to have peace of mind. |
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Holy Smokey, this rod bearing catastrophe is scaring you guys to the point where some of you guys never redline. Enjoy the flipping car! If you’re that afraid, do the rod bearings and drive it like you stole it!
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You are saying people shouldn't bother considering a warranty because it's always a sucker's bet. I am saying it's not that simple, it depends on the car, the price, and the ability/desire to DIY repairs. Do research, look at the numbers, and make an educated decision instead of simply writing it off as a sucker's bet.
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Camry warranty is lower also bc Camry drivers don't drive their cars like e9x owners drive their cars.
My credit union offered extended warranty if I financed with them but would only cover peanuts for $695 over two years |
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