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of course you are, because that is more tq than what the S65 has without boost. Thats my point, your happy now because you have a decent amount. youd be more happy with more of it. i guarantee it. noone has ever said while shopping for a supercharger "gee, I think that will be too much tq, and definitely too soon"
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Sorry if I seemed presumptuous. I was simply stating that suitable TQ can be attained. I will re read your comments.
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No need, I didnt take it that way. I was just saying that a major complaint of non-boosted M's is the lack of TQ, and this kit solves that, in spades. I just hate when someone claims its not needed because they wouldn't do it, or feel its too much (is there such a thing?) so nobody should or would buy the kit. |
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You stated the M3 is lacking TQ and it seems like you are referring to boosted V8's
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05-27-2013, 11:45 AM | #94 | |
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OK , Understood I LOVE TQ!
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05-27-2013, 03:27 PM | #96 | |
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now, its only discussion, because we dont know how much boost the S65 can take down low, and how much boost this kit needs to crack 600 up top. But im merely talking about the delivery of power between what the S65 in N/A AND Centrifugal boosted form, vs this Positively Displaced setup |
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05-28-2013, 08:33 AM | #97 |
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Fiy, ran into the owner of Harrop on the cruise I'm on, asked the same questions asked in this thread, long story short, they have been developing this kit for 2+ years, and they are getting someone in socal help develop the tune for them. Kit is also on their personal m3, and they have been thrashing it about. No problems so far is what I hear. Will be making a trip to Australia in march to take a personal tour of the facility.
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Thanks! Their kit was installed on my DCT car earlier this month, so clearly I'm interested in DCT longevity... Also, did he make any mention of blower whine? I'd imagine the roots blower would make itself known under acceleration.
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I will say though, the one benefit of high boost at low engine speeds is the ability to access a significant portion of max engine power, without having to downshift. I enjoy that charcteristic of my 335i. But, as you have stated, it could become a problem, once the power is increased and, if I'm running around, trying to launch the car all the time. IMO, in a chassis like the E92, its more beneficial to limit low end power output, in favor if high RPM power output. It fits better with the sporty GT/weekend track car nature of our machines. We just cannot match the traction capabilities of, say, larger american sports cars, with high displacement V8s. So, why bother? Now, this argument is academic, since no one on the forums has seen a dyno curve/driven this car yet. All we can do is make inferences from other, similar motors with similar PD devices on them. If you take a look at the curves from the SC'ed V8 in the B7 RS4, you'd see that pwoer delivery remains fairly linear. The engine's torque output still tends to increase as a function of engine speed. Maybe, just maybe, an S65 with a PD device would still drive like an N/A S65, just with more power everywhere. |
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Overhall, I'm really happy with my kit, for a fairly cheap price I have plenty of power and most importantly very good reliability but I'm still curious to see what Harrop is gonna acheive with this kit!! Can't wait to see some numbers and mostly can't wait to see some cars performing with it! |
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you mean everyone lives at redline every time they drive the car? I must be a minority for thinking id like to not have to drop a gear or 3 to accelerate
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