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i didnt think you were supposed to shuffle your hands on the wheel like that but keep them in position and rotate. thats what i was taught but may be wrong?
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The M3's steering rack is not fast enough to always allow for this. Sometimes the hands need to move.
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I only have one corner at each of the tracks that I have to move my hands and that is the slowest tightest turn at each. Only had watched first portion of video but seemed to be every turn. If it works for you then do it. Sometimes I pull my hands and cover my eyes, or no hand throttle steer with big oversteer situations.
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Funny but when I was learning to drift, I kept spinning out until I let go of the steering wheel...then it worked!
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12-23-2013, 04:46 PM | #912 |
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Shuffle steering is fine but it is more challenging to be consistent, quick and smooth when needed. Plus, seeing that as an instructor makes me giggle.
I have never needed to cross my hands over unless the car is sliding or spinning...in an E9X M3 or an E46 M3...all slower steering non-ZCPs. I drive some pretty tight and slow corners.
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12-23-2013, 05:00 PM | #914 |
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I'll give it a different approach next time but seems to work very well for me, very very happy with that lap time, I think it's very solid for the mods.
I feel more precise and have more control when holding a big angle turn. Feels strange having my hand between my legs. Feel like I can make more micro adjustments to the steering. |
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😂😂😂😂Hahahah you just killed me. Im dying. Maybe that's why!
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I would on this... But if you have a DCT car...I would recommend against shuffle steering.
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To each his own though, whatever works best for you. But, that guy's technique in the video would not hold up on the race track.
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^thanks
Hahaha I hit too many but I thought u want to go over the last right one to be further over so when going around the last left exiting the straight that it would be good to further right so it's less of a turn? it upsets the car too much? |
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Those 2 videos are completely different. Billy, in your video you only shuffle on the first 2 turns and then you're only 3&9 after 1:00. Great car control. The cop guy is moving his hands all over the place. Night and day different techniques.
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Shuffle steering keeps your torso more upright for big steering inputs. I mostly use it for tighter corners or moments of oversteer. I've seen people spin and even wreck from having their hands glued to 9&3 and running out of steering correction input. IMO shuffle steering is a good tool to have and use when needed. 0.02 |
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