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Electric steering does not = driving feel death. If that were the case then how would the Porsche Cayman be considered one of the best handling vehicles with what is perceived as the best steering feel available on the market today? The simple fact is that BMW had a poor algorithim for electric steering on it's first try. Porsche did a better job on their electric steering. BMW M has COMPLETELY redesigned their EPS for the new M3/M4... and ... BMW AG has issued updates for F30 models. The updates are easy to apply as a FIRMWARE update.. meaning all the " bad" examples can be updated with a trip to the dealer. I bet you GM and Chevrolet wish they could apply updates like this.... Perusing different forums... it is evident that owners that have driven multiple F30 models over the last few years have indicated improvement in the system in that model. And of course... Car & Driver did a comparison of HPS vs. EPS on the F10 xDrive cars: http://www.caranddriver.com/features...n-test-feature They have this to say: "After griping about EPS for years, the shocking revelation is that C/D’s editorial staff preferred BMW’s electric system over its hydraulic assistance. Total votes in seven out of ten rating categories favored EPS by two to eight points each. Hydraulic shined in only the three Feedback categories where it won the on-center comparison by four points and tied with EPS in our middle-of-maneuver and at-cornering-extremes performance ratings" Perhaps BMW owners will eventually evolve along with their EPS? Last edited by M3 Adjuster; 04-03-2014 at 03:01 PM.. |
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I sincerely hope we get a small range of seriously good super cars. Porsche and McLaren look very attractive in this market currently. An M and MM would be good, something pitched at £100-120k to take on the 911 group and something £160-180k to take on McLaren. Would have the market practically sewn up with those. |
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+1 Exactly what I was thinking.
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I don't know what you're trying to say here, but EPS can definitely be done right. This isn't a knock on EPS. Bimmer fans shouldn't have to buy a 70-80k m3 to get good steering feel. My $38k e90 328i had such better body roll characteristics, steering feel and corner limits than my $57k f30 335i. And I have the latest steering updates as it's a 2014.
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04-03-2014, 10:13 PM | #75 | |
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I suspect that BMW will develop such hybrid system based on the one in i8, but this one will be a lot more performance orientated. Price wise, it will probably be 75% or 100% more expensive than the i8. BMW M Centennial, something like that, lol. |
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04-03-2014, 10:17 PM | #76 | |
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As much as I like a sport oriented EPS, that's not something the average BMW 3 series owner are really looking for. I know quite a few people who like the F3x better than E9x because it feels more comfortable, laid back, and effortless for DD. |
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I think the MB trucks department is actually very profitable and their trucks are very dependable, that particular department was considered to be a very valuable asset to MB according to some investment groups.
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I noticed you bought a 5er GT. There's a reason for that. You could have bought a Benz or a Volvo, but you didn't. I'm going to guess you bought the 5er GT because it's a better car. There's a reason for that.
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The name is tricky, I expect M, M1, M10 or M100 will be most likely... However M Centurion might work (unless that name is already in use somewhere) We haven't had M Racing yet... |
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04-04-2014, 12:32 PM | #83 |
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Was this monstrosity supposed to look like a goblin shark?
http://www.discovery.com/tv-shows/sh...blin-shark.htm
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Hi, Scott (and everyone around here!)
You'd talked befor about a new concept that would be presented during Villa d'Este's Concorso de Eleganza. It has arised that the recent announcement of Bertone’s bankruptcy could possibly spell the end of a cooperative effort between BMW and the Italian design firm, under which collaboration was going to be produced a concept for introduction at this year’s Villa d’Este. Is it true or the Villa d'Este concept hasn't anything to do with this? Quote:
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The average American is WAY too caught up in perceptions and preconceived notions. People elsewhere just look at the car, if it meets their need, they don't generally care what others think about it (there will always be some that are looking to one-up their neighbors, but I'm talking about the average person). Elsewhere, brands like BMW and MB are considered high quality, but not necessarily luxury brands, since much of what is standard in the USA (leather, bigger motors, power this and that) are all optional...IOW, you can buy a car that looks the same on the outside, and sometimes get it for a major amount less than what it is sold for here. The guts of the vehicle retain the same level of engineering, and thus handling, but may come with fabric seats that you have to manually adjust, etc. |
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Like the Gran Coupe concept in 2010. There will be a live broadcast from Beijing, details will follow shortly on the car and the live broadcast.
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