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      02-10-2016, 02:09 PM   #67
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Completely agree that some immigration is a good thing. But immigrants mostly don't understand America - they don't understand our government or our principles. Which they can certainly learn. But many do not - they simply try to re-create the place they came from, and suck off the benefits of this country and bitch about equality. It cracks me up every time I see a Foreign flag hanging from someone's rearview mirror - as if that place is "worthy."
Most people I see do that are Americans but have family in European countries at least of the friends I know who do stuff like that. I don't really see the problem with it.

Or maybe they assume my car is the same since I have a flag on mine, in which case they'd be an idiot since its a scuba flag since I'm a diver.
Lol - scuba flag. I see lots with flags from Mexico, Honduras, El Salvador, Cuba, etc.
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Here is how I see this right now-

The free loaders and obamaites will vote for Bernie.

Crazy people, criminals, the delusional and career politicians people will vote for Hilary.

People who want the America of yesteryear and a true shakeup as well as people who are sick and tired of this country becoming too pc / pussified will vote for Trump.


I have zero shame in belonging to the last category... zero... I have nothing against anyone else, I do have something against commies, weakleaders and media spin.
There.
I fixed it for you. You left out a major constituency.
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While that's true, I strongly believe that every person should vote. Personally, I'd make it a legal requirement.
I don't see why make it a legal requirement. Should Trump/Sanders run, I'd likely just not vote at all as I'd be indifferent to each's ability to effectively govern.
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Its not so Fuked up that Donald Trump is running for President but its totally Fuked up that Americans are actually voting for him....
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Its not so Fuked up that Donald Trump is running for President but its totally Fuked up that Americans are actually voting for him....
He and Sanders just have a message that resonates well with people sick of politics as usual...which happens to include a lot of people.

Both lack substance, but they tell people on the right and left what they want to hear.
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While that's true, I strongly believe that every person should vote. Personally, I'd make it a legal requirement.
Read, 'Star Ship Troopers'. Don't think about the cartoonish movie. Read the book if you haven't already. It may provide enlightenment about voting, citizenship, and responsibility.
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Its not so Fuked up that Donald Trump is running for President but its totally Fuked up that Americans are actually voting for him....
If trump wins Florida you might have your own version of March madness then.
That's where it actually gets interesting.
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      02-10-2016, 02:31 PM   #74
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If trump wins Florida you might have your own version of March madness then.
That's where it actually gets interesting.
I think he'll handily win Florida. He probably built most of the golf courses they all enjoy.
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I think he'll handily win Florida. He probably built most of the golf courses they all enjoy.
He's a south Florida developer only...I think.
I lived in Orlando for a 7 moth gig and there's a golf course around every corner lol. Golfers heaven but I high tailed it back as soon as I was finished. 15 hours and 5 stops with a very good friend named Valentine One.

Handily may be a stretch. Rubio Bush country.
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As long as somebody wants to work/pay their dues, contribute to society and fit into the culture of the place they want to live, why should they not be allowed to?
Can't recall any of those questions being on the application. 4 out of 6 people I personally know who are now US citizens don't.
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Can't recall any of those questions being on the application. 4 out of 6 people I personally know who are now US citizens don't.
You're kinda making my point for me.
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I don't see why make it a legal requirement. Should Trump/Sanders run, I'd likely just not vote at all as I'd be indifferent to each's ability to effectively govern.
Then abstain, I just think that participating in the election should take a higher priority in most peoples minds.
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You think Bernie could legitimately become the next president?
This guys scares me, keep in mind how Mitt got in trouble for saying they 50% of the people in the country do not pay taxes and expect the other half to pay for them. Bernie is the guy saying that the other 50% should pay for everything in for the people who do not pay taxes, he is talking about giving things to people who do not work for anything they have. The other thing which is bothering is college kids like this guy, you would think they would like Rubio better since he is younger, but the kids like being part of the cupcake generation and Bernie plans to give them more cupcakes for just showing up.
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This guys scares me, keep in mind how Mitt got in trouble for saying they 50% of the people in the country do not pay taxes and expect the other half to pay for them. Bernie is the guy saying that the other 50% should pay for everything in for the people who do not pay taxes, he is talking about giving things to people who do not work for anything they have. The other thing which is bothering is college kids like this guy, you would think they would like Rubio better since he is younger, but the kids like being part of the cupcake generation and Bernie plans to give them more cupcakes for just showing up.
He's actually talking about just making people pay their fair share. i.e. closing the loopholes that the super rich and massive corporations use in order to pay no/almost no tax.
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Its not so Fuked up that Donald Trump is running for President but its totally Fuked up that Americans are actually voting for him....
Here is the thing with him, politicians in DC hate him, and the more they say they hate him the more people like him. I have been saying this for a long time and finally the media is figuring out. The reason DC politicians hate him is the fact he it not bought off, and he will like he has already done so far, tell the US population who in DC is bought off by which rich company or person. Trump does not have to worry about money, everyone else in DC needs the money that lobbyist are passing around. I can see it now when Trump can not get new legislation past he will tell everyone who is not voting for it and who is paying them not to vote.
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The reason DC politicians hate him is the fact he it not bought off
THIS is the only thing I like about Trump.
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He's actually talking about just making people pay their fair share. i.e. closing the loopholes that the super rich and massive corporations use in order to pay no/almost no tax.
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It's more amusing to me people believe Trump will change anything if he even gets elected, which is still extremely unlikely unless everyone in the States has lost their fucking minds.

No one likes Trump. People who's stupid enough to vote for him deserves to get run over by a car.

I swear everyone has forgotten how US Constitution works. Worse thing that would happen is he for some god damn reason does get voted in, he won't get anything done. Did everyone forgot their education about something called the Senate and House of Representatives? Hello?
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It's more amusing to me people believe Trump will change anything if he even gets elected, which is still extremely unlikely unless everyone in the States has lost their fucking minds.

No one likes Trump. People who's stupid enough to vote for him deserves to get run over by a car.

I swear everyone has forgotten how US Constitution works. Worse thing that would happen is he for some god damn reason does get voted in, he won't get anything done. Did everyone forgot their education about something called the Senate and House of Representatives? Hello?
I'm not sure why this is directed at me.
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I'm not sure why this is directed at me.
I have no idea either.



I think I'm more annoyed people keeps talking about him like he'll actually change anything.
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I have no idea either.

That being said, I'd have to argue that quite a lot of people like Trump. Look at how he's doing. As far as the Constitution argument, well, that applies to every candidate, doesn't it?
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So you think huge multi-nationals should pay a lower percentage than your local family-run business?
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