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Have driven the car a bit more now... and I must say... I really am happy with this mod.
Instead of having that "rasp" at 2800-3700RPM like you get with a lot of the drop in solutions and other intakes, this one makes a more aggressive sound without adding unwanted sound characteristics. It's a an expensive piece but you get what you pay for. It wouldn't surprise me if DINAN performed flow testing of this intake vs the stock elbow. It's another well engineered product from them. |
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I just installed a 2nd hand Dinan intake, and I was coming from a drop in AA green filter. What I hated about the AA filter was the rasp that Mr. Benvo mentioned earlier. I found with the windows down, I can't really hear the rasp I did before, however, with the windows up, it is still apparent, just higher in the RPM range. Mine kicks in closer to 4k RPM. It isn't as loud, but still there.
Slightly disappointing since the reason for the purchase was to have smoother & deeper intake sound. I am sure it is night/day difference between stock and Dinan intake, but I can't get on the bandwagon with everyone else when comparing drop-in filter vs. Dinan intake. Sure is pretty though. Also, one more note, I notice that the filter touches the airbox housing in the front but noplace else. Did everyone elses install go the same? I believe it is installed right, and i played with angles/rotation, but wanted to be sure.
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Just read all this now. I recently bought the dinan intake with filter off another member and had it installed. However the hose that connects to the metal piece popped off when I checked it the next day. Hope that didn't affect anything and I snapped it back in immediately.
The other thing I noticed was that the intake didn't make the same whoosh noise I was used to when i did the same mod in my 335. Funny thing is I noticed it the 1st 10 min after I installed it but after that it wasn't present. Is it normal to not get that whoosh noise with a NA engine? I certainly noticed a bit more power and smoother acceleration, if that's the right phrase to use. Feedback fm dinan intake owners will be appreciated. Thanks. |
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Any dynos with logged data making sure other factors remained equal, showing true power?
I pose the question that if the 450 HP gts 4.4 l motor runs off the same stock intake, and it requires more flow than regular 4 litre engines, than doesn't it speak to the stock intake feeding as much air as the engine needs to make post power? The drop in filter I get as that lowers the pressure differential of air going through filter and decreases pumping losses since less restriction mean less energy to suck air in but the amount of air in my view is already plenty for the engine to make as much power possible. Again air into engine is limited by can lift and duration so adding more air in the manifold really doesn't force more air through valves because there is already the desired airflow designed from engine maker for that given can lift. .if you theoretically had infinetly variably lift can that read intake air flow and adjusted I see how intakes may work but otherwise makes no sense. Other than as I mentioned the filter part. I actually think at real world speeds since the intake elbow is larger diameter, the velocity of air moving through there and into the throttle bodies and into cylinder would decrease and given the engine doesn't require more air( which din an may increase flow but at cost of slower velocity) the air the engine is utilizing is now slower and less efficient cylinder filling with slower moving air which would increase pumping losses by engine having to work harder due to vacuum created would need to work harder to sucjk in slower moving air. I would bet money this makes negative performance if you take out positive effect from filter and thus why just doing a drop in yields most benefit .dynos actually may show this gaining a few HP as due to lack of airflow in dyno, the engine is seeing slow velocity air compared to street and given air is slower the stock elbows higher velocity is potentially not noticeable with lack of air vs dinan elbow with larger flow and although slower velocity air through larger elbow at street speed, would offer advantage on a dyno as less pumping losses to draw from stagnant air in a large volume tube vs stock small volume. However that phenomon is not applicable on road where airflow is high. |
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Your "whoosh" noise comes from the turbos your 335 had. This engine doesn't have them, which is why you aren't hearing it. Enjoy your purchase, it's a great product!
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The intake defn compliments the Dinan exhaust cuz everyone says it's much more louder now.
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Agreed and totally enhances the intake sound experience, which for me personally I prefer aggressive intake noise over exhaust sound.
Also some really interesting videos from when M5board interviewed Steve Dinan and there was a segment where Dinan walked through the design and testing of the E60 M5 intake.. you bet they test this stuff, quite rigorously actually. Quote:
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I have been in the BMW modding world for a while. I have not had a lot of DINAN products on my personal cars but I have had a lot of experience with them.
DINAN products might not be the most aggressive, their stroker kit might not make the most power and their suspension might not be the lowest or best handling, but they are well built, reliable, tested products made for the street with verified gains. If I was a guy just looking to get a little more out of my BMW without sacrificing daily drivability, then DINAN is probably the place I would go for mods.
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The problem with din an is they just never deliver the promised performance. Literally never read an example on any model where din an made advertised power or produced street results promised. Worst was e39 mod packages. Theirwhole "dyno iisn't accurate way to measure power" flew for awhile but problem is solid other tuners shoe gains on dynos and real street performance.
In that same video someone mentioned with Steve din an talking about the poor design of m5 maf sensor size and intake, he actually says the intake airflow has " all been fixed on the new M3" referring to e92 |
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I like the intake I have from them very much, and I had their exhaust on my E60 M5 and it was amazing. I think they offer well engineered products and appreciate the time and effort they put into R&D at their facility. |
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Do you guys feel there's extra torque down low? The car just seems a tad bit more responsive with this intake but I'm wondering if this is all in my head.
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Here is a link/pics if anyone is interested on my take on the intake: EDIT: Forgot the link....http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=281826 You'll see some DINAN bashing in there as well
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I had their Dinan intake on my E90 M3 for a while before going forced induction, and definitely would recommend it to anyone with an NA setup. |
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