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I'll take some pics after the weather gets better.
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This is really interesting. I didn't think there was a fitment for the ZCP setup, but ashtaron14 seems to be happy. Looking forward to seeing your pictures. Or adding the TC Kline sleeves as FogCityM3 suggested. Have any of our sponsors who sell this product had success with a ZCP car? If so, what is the best way to go about it.
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09-18-2014, 08:11 AM | #70 | |
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1. With Eibach's, do you suggest doing this job here: http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=423572 2. Do you recommend Eibach's along with the Bilstein EDC setup, or just the Eibach's? |
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09-18-2014, 09:11 AM | #71 | |
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During my E36 M3 days back in the 90s, I spoke with the tech at Bilsteins and was told that the shocks were actually tuned around the Euro Spec M3 spring rates which were 10-15% stiffer and in line with Eibach rates. That said, I went with Eibach (only one flavor for our cars, its the black colored springs) yet once again on this car (e90) because the are a tad stiffer than stock rates, then the drop (like most springs in the market) are 1 inch lower in front and 0.6 or whatever at the back. That said, the link above you sent me states the rake gets messed up since front drop lowers on stock struts. HOWEVER, on the Bilsteins which actually raises the car up a little in the front vs rear, my Eibach with these Bilsteins are almost close to factory ZCP drop and rake. Will it be identical, NO. But close enough YES. My experience is with these shocks/struts and Eibach springs and front only HR bar and -2.5 camber through Ground Control plates. Lutfy |
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09-19-2014, 09:27 AM | #73 |
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Finally got to take some pics. Mind you I have 235/35 tires in the front, so the gap is a tad bigger.
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01-30-2015, 10:28 PM | #74 |
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How does suspension travel of these compare to their OE counterparts?
For the E36 and E46, the Bilstein HD replacements have ~7/8'' less suspension travel than stock (or Koni). Wondering if the E90 EDC kit has the same dimensions and travel as stock. And regardless of ^ this question, can the kit be used in connection with Dinan front and rear mounts for increased travel? Would assume so, but worth checking. Last edited by wyatth; 01-31-2015 at 01:46 AM.. |
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03-01-2015, 01:07 PM | #76 | |
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Can I just put the Bilstein shocks and leave the stock springs and everything? I am ok with stock ride height just looking for more cushy ride in comfort mode. I have E90 M3 with 19" non ZCP. Really straggling with the harsh ride on very bad roads we have here. Really would appreciate your help. |
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03-02-2015, 12:59 PM | #77 | |
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If you DONT mind your car just a tad raised or higher, then yes you will be fine with the stock springs I went with Eibach for obvious reasons (slightly lower and only 10% stiffer). Like you have 19" non ZCP wheels. Either ways, I have found the ride to be more pleasant than the stock setup (given more suspension travel) even after all this time (had it since summer) driving on these pathetic DC roads. Cheers, Lutfy |
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03-02-2015, 01:13 PM | #78 | ||
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Thank you for your kind reply. After reading your review I think that using bilstein with eibach springs will get me more comfort than with stock springs because of progressive design of eibach springs. Am i right? |
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03-03-2015, 02:47 PM | #79 | |
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So to answer if Eibach are more comfortable than stock springs because of progressive vs stock linear, hmmmm. Real life experience on these softly sprung spring as is is hard to tell. BUT in theory progressive is supposed to be better and more profound as spring rates begin to rise. Do Eibach with it, you wont regret it (that much I know Cheers, Lutfy |
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For those looking for the model up:
B16 Damptronic thread: http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1139242
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These would be a great replacement for half the cost. Did you see that the shock travel was the same as OE? Or will lower springs cause premature wear like the OE with lowering springs? Is there a reason why it raised the car a tad bit?
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06-23-2015, 09:15 AM | #82 | |
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06-24-2015, 08:54 AM | #83 | |
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What exhaust set-up do you have ?
Awesome video of you racing ! Watched it 5 times - what is the exhaust set-up you have ? Sounds so amazing !
Also do you drive your M3 on track and road ? Thank you, Merlin Quote:
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06-25-2015, 03:37 PM | #84 | |
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Yes car is track/road vehicle and left pretty much stockish except for brake pads/tires etc. Cheers, Lutfy |
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06-30-2015, 11:49 AM | #85 |
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Has anyone paired these with the Swift springs which are linear? I plan to also pair these with the Ground Control Camber plates as well.
I was fine with how the M3 felt with the Swift springs, however a recent VW sponsored track day using my wife's VW CC with stock springs/ rear sway bar/ Bilstein HD's made me start thinking of just upgrading the shocks on the M3. The Bilsteins made a big difference in how much grip and stability the CC had on the race track and around city streets that it is just so much fun to drive the wife's car. I'm thinking on the M3 it will make a nice difference as well. - So census is that it will not change my ride height correct? (I already have Swift installed)... if the rid height is gonna be looking like stock again I might just get coilovers. - Lufty's review seams to make it great on the track as well (I don't plan to be competitive or get the lowest time attack time... but I want to be able to drive in a fun aggressive way) - Lufty, any pictures of your car with these on? I think I am deciding between these or Ohlins R/T matched withGC camber plates or even splurging for the B16 damptronic ones. |
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06-30-2015, 12:03 PM | #86 | |
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You already have the key parts. Dont think adding these Bilstein's will make it that much more fun (in comparison to what you experienced with the CC) because the stock shocks are really good. I would look into HR front only bar at this point and leave suspension as is? You need to be VERY clear with what you want from the car, dont compare it to coilovers since they have certain advantages. Lutfy Last edited by lutfy; 06-30-2015 at 12:14 PM.. |
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06-30-2015, 12:58 PM | #87 | |
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My M3 has 70,000 miles on the shocks so I am thinking they are just worn out at this point. They feel like they feel a bit bouncy and on on ramps/ offramps with rough pavement I'm getting bump steer... I couldn't keep up with a BRZ that was pushing it on an onramp because everytime the M3 hit an expansion joint or rough pavement I'd loose traction. Same onramp on the CC and it just sticks. Interesting that it will make it about even height with the a stock ZCP however. Makes me lean more towards coilovers such as the Ohlins. |
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