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08-26-2007, 05:12 PM | #67 |
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Good question. I was wondering about that, too. BMW has not messed with the M3 engines too much for any given chassis. I believe the E46 M3 did not change at all during production, and both the E30 M3 and the E36 M3 engine got 0.2l displament bumps mid-way through. I am sure DFI will be technically possible in a year or two, but pratically, I doubt it.
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08-26-2007, 05:21 PM | #68 | |
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Seems like it'd be a long time to wait to see a DFI M3 if we have to wait until the next model run. |
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08-26-2007, 05:33 PM | #69 | |
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I would image that BMW would not want to piss nicely paying customers off. They would aliniate about 20000 people if they were to introduce DFI during the second year run. The only reason I can think of for such a move is potentially stiff competition emerging within the next 2 years. If the new RS4 comes out with a 550hp+ engine for instance, which is possible if they turbocharge a varient of the current engine. Then there is the GTR. |
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08-26-2007, 05:49 PM | #71 | |
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Another six years is a long time to wait for DFI in the M3. |
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08-26-2007, 05:49 PM | #72 |
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You must be kidding. Just look at what the 335 did to 330 customers a year or so later. BMW knows there are plenty of Roundel worshippers who have to have their "latest and greatest" to show up the neighbors.
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08-26-2007, 06:04 PM | #74 | |
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Let's move forward and appreciate what we have to look forward to. |
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08-26-2007, 06:07 PM | #75 |
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Oh, but the 330 customers are not necessarily the "give me the highest performance possible on a street car" people. And they would have paid much less than the M3 customers. Most M3 buyers will be wanting every bit of performance for the buck--regardless of the fact that they won't use it on the street. And they will be paying big bucks. Regardless, I agree that there must be some pissed off 330 customers out there, but I doubt that they number in the thousands, or that that would keep them from buying another BMW.
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I read that too. Looks like PAG may be making some headway with this if AutoLies numbers are even halfway close.
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08-27-2007, 11:05 AM | #85 | |
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In the end, many, many, MANY people were caught off guard by the E90 335i, and there were countless threads on E90post from pissed off 330i owners. I would guess that probably at least 25% of them have gone on to trade for a 335i by now (taking a large loss in the process). Bottom line is, IMHO, it is rare for an automanufacturer to base their products around the wishes of past customers. Typically they are much more concerned about future customers. They will do what it takes to keep pace with what their competitors are doing. |
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Read that interview about DFI also. If I got the BMW guy (think it was Richter) right, he said that the next generation will get it. So first DFI car should be the next Generation (F10) M5 followed by the next generation M3. Maybe even the rumoured X6-M will be the first M car to get DFI. Imagine the V10 combined with a 5.000 lb car, that would need the consumption advantage of DFI really hard!
I can't decide if I'm more disappointed that the M3 didn't get DFI or more happy that this technology which is still making trouble isn't featured yet... If the 20 MPG figure turned out to be right while sporty driving (not track), I wouldn't care about DFI any more. Best regards, south |
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