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04-12-2008, 08:23 AM | #67 | |
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04-12-2008, 09:46 AM | #69 |
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great job guys...can't wait to see the video...
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04-12-2008, 10:06 AM | #70 | |
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these two answers are quite evasive, I mean he should just say they want to pump the price. They don't want people ordering a non-i-drive car so they make CA and MDM which have nothing to do with i-drive part of the package. (M-button as well tho that could have more to do with i-drive since it may need more to control than just one button). We already have a button for stability control, it would be nothing to have MDM as the middle setting. Also we already have a start button CA can be an option without i-drive on every other 3-series. thanks for the candid conversation, but as is clear the real aswer is: We want the price to be as high as possible (ie. technology package at least) so we tied premium sound, CA and MDM to that leading people to spend at a minimum $60K+ for a car with MDM or CA. I'm sure many people end up with the technology package by default since it's the only way to get CA and MDM. Last edited by rai; 04-12-2008 at 10:21 AM.. |
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04-12-2008, 10:47 AM | #72 |
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Update: I loaded all my videos from the meeting to google videos last night, but now about 12 hours later it's showing all 4 of my videos as being only 2 seconds long.
I might have to reload them all. Any suggestions?
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04-12-2008, 11:10 AM | #73 |
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Thanks that was moderately interesting (would have been better to have an M3 engineer answer most questions).
"The E92 seat has at least 6-8 motors in it, making it quite a heavy seat. The front seats alone may add 100lbs to the E92." Woa. One mod that comes to mind is to lock the seats in your prefered position then remove the motors. I am sure these motors are quite heavy. Anyone else thought the same ? "BUTT ugly orange reflectors?" I ACTUALLY LIKE the position of these reflectors they add dimension to the 3/4 front. " Do you know about the issue with the sale of a M3 on Ebay from the dealer in Lincoln, NE? Any comments? He knows all about it. BMW USA was very involved. Bottom Line, he said customer was having problem getting financing and was trying to get the dealer to drop the price below what was agreed to on Ebay" that is BS, I am sure that dealer tried to get more money from financing when he could not walk out of the binding auction deal. |
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04-12-2008, 11:17 AM | #74 | |
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If two gear ratios are connected at the same time (shift overlap) then the clutches must slip which causes unnecessary wear and heat. If both ratios are actually connected (engaged) at the same time then the output shaft (drive shaft) will be locked and cause the drive wheels to lock (like having an automatic trans. car in Park). If the vehicle is moving when the driveshaft locks the tires will chirp (skid) or the weakest power train link will break. Manual transmissions vehicles use a shift interlock to prevent two gear ratios from being selected at the same time. Automatic transmission vehicles have a torque converter that allows slippage. Bottom line: You must have some time when both gears are not engaged (connected) to the engine. BMW likely designed in some “zero torque time” to prevent M-DCT owners from have early clutch failures. The wet clutch design with plenty of cooling should help also. |
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04-12-2008, 11:23 AM | #75 | |
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04-12-2008, 11:29 AM | #76 | |
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Point here though is that practically speaking, you can't feel, and would have a hard time measuring ZTT. I believe the DCT is that good. Cheers.
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Thanks Skierman, I really appreciate the effort you put into this. And thanks to Mr. Koch for his answers/insight as well as reading this forum.
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You're the first person that I've seen that actually like the front reflectors. I'm curious if anyone else actually likes them out there who has just never spoken up.
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04-12-2008, 12:01 PM | #81 | |
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If you install after-market seats then you either must deal with the seat upholstery not matching the rest of the interior, or get a custom upholstery job for them. Of course, it's not so much a problem if you have black. Yes, he is the only person in the whole world who actually likes the reflectors.
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04-12-2008, 01:12 PM | #82 | |
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I think the main reason that stand-alone CA is not available is that BMW NA thinks that few people without ZTP would want it. Its possible that they even have survey data to back this up. And if no one orders it - then why clutter up the options list? Its similar to how headlight washers are not available standalone. Probably almost no one would order it that way. But in this case I really would order stand alone CA and I suspect there are quite a few of those 25-30% that Larry mentions who don't want iDrive that would actually like to have CA also. Hopefully enough of us complain to get them to change their minds. |
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04-12-2008, 01:53 PM | #83 | |
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I do not see how having CA being an option by itself is any different than having EDC or heated seats be an option. I mean it's one thing. How hard can it be to have one more choice? As for the MDM that (IMO) is totally in the technology package to get people to buy technology package. There is a button for the stability control that could be off/no or MDM.--------------- unless maybe MDM requires EDC (for example) to function which does not seem to be the case since wouldn't they it have been said that way? I will say, technology package is a good value meaning if you are willing to say CA + MDM + M-button (together) are worth $1K and EDC is worth $1K that's $2K making i-drive and navi cost just $1250 which is a good deal assuming you don't mind i-drive and nav. I am not against or for i-drive. I guess it's something I will live with or something I will love but the idea that I HAVE to buy i-drive to get CA just doesn't make any sense. IMO with the key + push-button (two steps) if you don't have CA it just seems that something like CA should not cost a bit to make (since the hardware start button is already there) so IMO the M-car should have CA standard if anything. I understand if it's an option that's more profit for BMW but it does seem the 'low price' of the base is not realistic for most people so we are seeing $70K M3s more common than anything else. My point being psychologically if we are now getting Tech package (almost forced option) and most people will get leather + trim upgrade so premium package is going to be very common and the way the base stereo lesser than the L7 in the 335i many will get premuim sound since it's $66K so what's another $1900? |
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Yeah I know it is the same in any industry. Information gets filtered by marketing. The upper management usually does not understand sh*t when it comes to technical discussions. It is not that they are evasive it is outside their league. Quote:
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I like the reflectors as well - they don't bother me anymore. They look good on the AW cars especially. I won't be painting mine in the same way that I won't be painting my tail lights. They add color to the car.
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Thanks for your awesome work skierman64, much appreciated! Tamas Last edited by Mini Me; 04-12-2008 at 08:37 PM.. |
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