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Just bought a 2011 m3 coupe zcp in 6mt. Been super bored driving my 2013 328i auto so I'm super excited to drive a fun car again. My previous manuals were a 2011 335i msport, 2005 s2000, and a 2006 Evo 9. Loved driving them all, even in LA traffic. Probably going to trade the m3 for an m2 eventually and of course it'll be manual. The day Bmw stops making manuals is the day I switch to another brand.
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I'm very dissapointed when I hear a man over 21 can't drive a manual.. told my 15 year old daughter she will learn to drive a manual on the m. To me one of the easiest manuals to drive.. ( not easy to perfect it just easy to drive )
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I tend to agree. I've driven plenty of manuals in my days and I found the M3 stick to be quite enjoyable to drive. I came out of a G37S 6MT and while the G's throws were much shorter, the clutch engagement was unrefined and driving in city traffic made me insane. Drove the same traffic for over a year in the M and it was world's better in almost everyway (minus the long-ish throws).
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I learned on a 92' Toyota Pickup. That was the easiest manual I have ever driven. I swear you could not stall that thing.
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08-07-2017, 08:09 AM | #72 |
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So many people have nailed the reasoning for the DCT! I'd say keep the DCT, just pairs so well with the cars engine behavior and was truly engineer for this car at launch. The manual, while fun just doesn't pair as well with the car as the DCT.
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08-07-2017, 08:12 AM | #73 |
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BMW advertises that the E9x M has a heavy duty clutch. I've noticed when the car is accidentally stalled while playing with it, it's not a violent shake. It's actually quite subtle. I drove a friend's scion 6MT and it was quite violent when it stalled.
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08-07-2017, 08:15 AM | #74 |
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6MT. Having said that, I've made some changes that have greatly improved the shift feel/action.
1) Autosolutions SSK 2) ZHP shift knob 3) Ultimate Clutch Pedal Can't beat it.
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08-07-2017, 08:19 AM | #75 |
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How much did all this cost including labor?
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i already have the shift knob and have the AS SSK\UCP sitting on the shelf. how difficult was the SSK install? |
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08-07-2017, 09:21 AM | #77 |
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Awesome, I'm actually installing an autosolutions SSK now (went with a 20% reduction kit) and UCP now as well. Looking forward to driving it. Ron has been fantastic to work with.
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08-07-2017, 09:51 AM | #78 |
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SSK ($400)
UCP ($295) Shift knob and boot (~$150) Labor was a "cash" deal with local shop I've trusted over the years that also did some routine maintenance work, so I don't have a clean breakdown. It was several hours of labor, so you should expect well into the "hundreds" of dollars. I didn't blink, totally worth it to me... There are DIYs out there, but that's not my thing.
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Agree, a true artisan. Went with him after phone conversation and reading numerous reviews of other options out there for our cars (Rogue, UUC, Active Autowerke).
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I'm not a DIYer, so no idea.
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Ha, I can't argue with that. The Miata's shift feel has spoiled me on almost any other manual.
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I also think it's funny that people are bagging on the feel of the e9x M3 manual transmission. I have news for y'all. BMW has never made an excellent feeling gearbox. When one talks about the best feeling gearboxes ever made, I don't think I've ever seen a single BMW listed. Meh... I still enjoy going through the gears despite not being the epitome of manual transmission feel. Frankly, neither does Porsche make a great feeling manual. I didn't find the 997 shifter feel any better than our cars. And yet, Porsche decided to go back to offering a manual in the 991.2 GT3. People like what they like, it's really just that simple. Last edited by New2Roundel; 08-07-2017 at 02:26 PM.. |
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All I can add to this is dreaming about the M3 when I was younger I always really wanted DCT because of paddles and video game driving but then when I got my 330ci in manual oh damn it was so fun.
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Depends how your using the car, difficult to say without knowing that. However the DCT sounds like a better sorted car, personally I wouldn't swap.
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Over here (Sweden) it's not possible to obtain drivers license with an auto box. Driving schools are all using manuals as well as final tests. Hence everybody here driving a car know all about manual gear boxes. Which doesn't prevent the M-DCT together with the S65 to be a blast!
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