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06-16-2010, 11:46 AM | #67 | |
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Keep us posted please. Which Redline oil did you order? I asked the main guy there, and surprisingly he suggested D4ATF, which I thought was crazy. He said it was closer to stock than MTL, but I'd probably use MTL myself. Just curious. Oh, and how many miles on your car? |
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06-19-2010, 09:55 AM | #69 | |
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Though now I'm concerned because Qty 3 of 1/2l would only be 1.5l... Where as people are saying the official amount is 1.8x. Last edited by Alex1911; 06-19-2010 at 10:05 AM.. |
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06-19-2010, 01:10 PM | #70 |
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Just had my 1200 mile service yesterday and there are 4 on mine.
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06-19-2010, 04:16 PM | #71 | |
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Anyone think I should be a hard-ass and tell them to redo the tranny service or just get them to add some? Cleaning of the filter/screen isn't mentioned on my service invoice. I've driven about 140mi since the service performed w/ .6l low. Last edited by Alex1911; 06-19-2010 at 04:31 PM.. |
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06-19-2010, 04:49 PM | #72 |
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Doubt it's low man. More likely they didn't drain it long enough, so it took less fluid. But I'd just ask if an M-certified tech did the work, since there's a weird procedure to check oil level (do a search for instructions).
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06-19-2010, 05:09 PM | #73 |
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There shouldn't be. Unless something changed, the official, no-shit capacity of the diff is 1.1 liters. I took 3 to my dealer when I did my 1200 mile service and I got one bottle back with .4 liters left in it.
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06-19-2010, 10:46 PM | #74 |
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We're discussing the manual tranny fluid level... Not the engine oil or diff fluid.
Per this thread: http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=129886 it's 2.1l of tranny fluid. I'm not disagreeing, but I want to make sure it's done right and I'm not driving around minus .6l of tranny fluid... Especially since I'm enjoying the M button and driving the car fairly hard. |
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06-24-2010, 11:46 PM | #75 | |
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Car has 24k. Old fluid looked OK. Filter was clean. Drained it all out, flushed through some new D4ATF, installed drain plug, filled it until it overflowed the filler. Had car level on my 4 post lift. One word on the fresh fluid...SMOOOOOOTH. |
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06-25-2010, 12:32 AM | #76 |
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Thanks for the update man . Guess that's the right fluid then; I'll probably use the same. Did you measure how much oil came out, and how much did you put in? Did you happen to check the level with your pinkie before draining ? Did you start the engine before checking level (as SM suggests) or not? Wondering how accurate is the 1.8-qt figure. Hope that doesn't include the cooler. The T56 Tremec needs 4.6 qts; 1.8 seems ridiculous to me.
You used the word 'flush', but I'm sure you just did a drain and refill, correct? Depending on your answer, I might order 4 qts of D4ATF sooner rather than in a year. Why 4? Because with the cooler fluid still there, I'll probably do a second oil change a year later to reduce the percentage of old fluid. Just did myself my annual oil change at 4.4K miles, so I should have less than 10K at the 2-yr anniversary. And yes, I know I could have gotten the oil change for free, but don't want dealer touching my car unless absolutely necessary. Hey, can you recall if the tranny feels better than when new? Is it less notchy when cold? Give us the details buddy . I want to make sure the benefits outweigh the risk. And by risk I mean the possibility of losing the warranty due to a non-OEM fluid when BMW pays for service. Comments welcome. Last edited by JCtx; 06-25-2010 at 12:37 AM.. |
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06-25-2010, 12:45 AM | #77 | |
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Mine is back to being notchy again and maybe a bit more so than pre-1200mi service. It was nice for a week though, I think they under filled mine. |
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can down shifting hurt the break in if u over rev not properly rev matching ?
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Thanks for the info...
Nice to know that we all can share valuable information here, like the one you sent in below, John.
My 2010 M3 (6MT) just turned 1200 miles, and for that it will be service this week, but I'll ensure they perform what you listed below, per Service Bulletin. I do appreciate you sharing this important issue. Thank you John! Quote:
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08-09-2010, 10:21 PM | #80 |
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I'm buying a CPO 2008 BMW M3 next week. It has 23,xxx miles on it. I don't know if the car has it serviced at 1,200 with this bulletin. If it dosn't can I still take it to the dealer and let them do it? Thanks!
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Thanks John, for providing us with this valuable service information... |
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08-13-2010, 11:50 AM | #82 | |
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You (or the seller) could always ask your dealer to run the service history on it for you prior to closing.
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08-21-2010, 03:38 PM | #84 |
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German dealer refused to change diff oil!
Ok so I am knee deep in European driving and finally hit 1200 miles while in Trier Germany. I bring the car in for my appointment and expect the German service advisor to know whats up - Wrong! After 30 minutes of discussions he tells me each M3 is different and they are only supposed to do an oil change for my cal not the differential as I requested. I mention I know for a fact the differential oil also needs to be changed. There is a bit of a language barrier but service adviser brings in tech and manager and they confirm on computer my car does not need diff service. I ask them out of curiosity at what point it needs flushing, they tell me never! I was not happy but decided since I had to pay 270 E for the oiil change that I would have the dealer do the diff service back in the states.
Anyone else ever hear of this? Why is this so difficult for dealers to get straight. I actually convinced myself I was crazy after an hour of trying to convince the entire German dealership staff I knew the cars maintenance better than they did. They kept asking me for the service book which I did not ever get. After all the countless hours on here preparing for the service I still get screwed. Anyone else deal with this? Next stop was the ring for a few laps to break everything in properly. |
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09-06-2010, 12:12 PM | #87 |
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i have 17,000 miles on the clock and just looked at the invoice and i don't think my car has had this done how bad do u guys think this is??
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09-06-2010, 04:21 PM | #88 | |
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Have them change it now and explicitly state on the work order that they didn't change it properly at the 1200 mile service. If you have any issues with your tranny down the road, it will be on the dealership. If you want to take it a step further, you can ask to speak to the regional BMW rep and discuss your concerns with him. Don't let anyone brush it off as "no big deal". Even if it were "no big deal", it's not for them to determine. Even more hilarious is that my dealer was not going to change the fluid for the 30k mile service either. I had to insist that it was the correct thing to do per the manual. Further, they went on to tell me - "well, we haven't been doing it for any other M3s". hahahaha - what a joke! Gotta love the incompetence on a 60k+ car. Good Luck. |
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