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11-16-2018, 09:36 AM | #837 | |
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11-16-2018, 05:34 PM | #838 |
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These were taken off my 2008 E93 at 68K miles before a supercharger install. I was the 2nd owner, bought the car with 24K miles on it and then driven it quite hard with several redlines every single day, 4 years of AutoX with dozens of schools and test-and-tune events some up to 4 hours behind the wheel during hot summer days. Used Motul 15w50 since about 30K with 6-7K oil changes, all sent to Black Stone. Tests constantly shown higher than usual metals, but it was consistent between each oil change so I did not get alarmed that much. Thought about replacing them as precaution when supercharger installed, apparently it was good timing. I'm sure they could survive for some more miles but I did not want to take chances.
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11-16-2018, 11:07 PM | #839 | |
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11-27-2018, 08:09 AM | #840 |
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2008 E92 M3, Scandinavia, 98000KMs. BMW recommended service intervals & fluids. What about the crank in these cases? People just swap bearings and keep driving.. Is there not a risk of the crank being damaged, without having spun a bearing?
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11-27-2018, 02:38 PM | #843 |
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Tjena HH5k, like the guys say, plenty 08 shells taken out in worse condition without crank damage. What did you put in?
Where about are you? Sthlm here. |
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11-28-2018, 02:43 AM | #844 | |
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But sure, they don't look as bad as a lot of the other examples.. Just a lot worse than they should look in a fully serviced 100'km car. This is the first set of M3 bearings I've seen IRL, and I was quite disappointed to see that this is not all just car forum anxiety.. :/ Do you guys think that this issue is beeing reflected in the used car price? Or do you feel like that has yet to come? |
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11-28-2018, 03:26 AM | #845 | |
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Again a lot of much worse examples as you can see on the board. Personally wouldnt worry but lets see what the engine guys has to say. Regarding pricing at least over here, njae I dont think original shells at around say 100k km (which is where most 08s seem to be around) influence pricing in general. Main reason being that most 2nd hand buyers are not fully aware of the "issue". Anyhows its a 20-25KSEK fix "only" so not a major deal on a 300K car. Personally I would prefer to buy an "un done" car and have it sorted with a shop of my choice and see how things look. Like you're doing now assuming quick buy. Ps. It should have been possible to get a fair visual inspection of the crank during bearing swap? |
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11-28-2018, 04:23 AM | #846 |
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For a car with 100km those look horrific, the babbitt layer is quite worn and there are areas of copper visible.
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Are some photos of people's rod bearings posted in this thread less worn than others? Yes. Are all of the bearings posted here worn significantly more than they should be or more than any other car of comparable mileage and usage. Also yes. |
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How does this look? 2011.5 E92 M3, 61k miles on the car, ~20 track days since I've owned it.
This is the stock rod bearing AFAIK, replacing with BE bearings |
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If you search rod bearings for STis or Porsches or other (performance) cars you will see some images that are "familiar"
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12-08-2018, 06:36 PM | #852 |
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I don't want to stir up drama (yeah kinda hard to do talking about our rod bearings), but for the people who still want BMW to do something about this issue:
https://jalopnik.com/heres-how-to-po...car-1830938474 |
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12-09-2018, 09:06 AM | #854 |
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Just bought my 09 M3 with 80k miles. Engine purrs like a kitten, but no evidence that rod bearing issue has ever been addressed, so I will be in the market.
I am a longtime BMW fan, owning an e28, 2 e36s, and an M2. Frankly, I am shocked at BMWs negligence in the case of the e9x cars. They already faced this issue big time in the e46 M3 to the point of recall and ongoing headaches. How could the NEXT GENERATION of M3 have the same problem? You would think they would have designed the entire damn car around perfect rod bearings following that e46 disaster. Secondly, I am surprised that the pictures on this thread show bearings from 2008 and 2009 with higher mileage that look BETTER than some of the bearings from 2013 cars that had 30k miles on them.........supposedly after 5 years of design improvement (or at least knowledge of the problem.) Don't get me wrong, I bought my e92 prepared to address the problem, but this makes BMW engineering look like a bunch of morons. |
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“German Engineering” they said. After two e39’s and an e36... my e90 M3 is the nail in my BMW coffin. BMW NA was horrific to deal with when my rod bearings went at 17k on my 2011. Worst experience ever. And the incompetence of the dealership was astounding. Never again.
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Rod Bearings at 105k Miles
These seem to be worse than most I've seen.
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Keep in mind that the shells was changed mid 2010 and the latter have a different appearance that sometimes plays tricks.
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12-28-2018, 11:19 PM | #858 |
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Just gotten my 2008 e93 m3 which has seen 57,000 km mileage
Was informed that ex owner is an a**h**** who abused this car badly. Sent the 2000km oil to blackstone and got 19 lead ppm so i decided to change BE bearing crb and arp bolt. Attached are the pictures of my old CRB [IMG][/IMG] |
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