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i wonder how much people are gonna start bitching when the next gen M3 goes turbo 6 cylinder with a smaller displacement, even though I'm sure it'll kick the V8 M3's ass.
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Why havent the 17 threads on the M3 GTS been merged? or at least the two big ones?
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11-05-2009, 11:42 AM | #643 |
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I am hoping that BMW start a GTS racing series for these cars in the US. Like the Patron GT3 Challenge that Porsche does. I will be on the phone immediately with my sponsor contacts to try to secure a car
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11-05-2009, 11:46 AM | #644 |
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Unfortunately, it's not.
Too many hurdles to overcome, combined with the extremely low production numbers, simply won't justify all the costs involved in bringing it to the United States. Just spoke to a trusted contact at BMW North America, and it's just not gonna happen. (in it's current form) A "Competition Package" style optional upgrade (with a few elements of this model) will be considered for the 2011 model year from what I'm told.
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11-05-2009, 11:48 AM | #645 |
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They already have one...it's called the Koni Challenge series.
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I told South I had heard that the DSC would be tuned of track use but didn't see it in the first info that was released. Made me think that info I got was wrong but it appeared that it was correct after all. I did read all the other stuff in the press release but it appears the early estimates on the weight was wrong. It was 1490kg but that was DIN and not with the additional 75kg BMW usually factor in. |
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After the recent mess a lot of folks were unhappy about (turbo, "M" SUVS, no CSL, increasing weight) this goes a long way to repair some of that "damage" IMO. Folks are excited, it's true "M" heritage, etc. That's really good for the brand. If some of this can make it's way into a US spec car, or a larger production run "special edition" who isn't going to be jealous and want one? I want one, and I expect a lot of us do. And I just bought an 09 E92 to replace my E93! Will I be annoyed if a good chunk of this gets into an US spec car? Hell yes. Will I still want one? Hell yes on that too! Even if none of this shows up here it's still damn exciting and does something positive for the brand. Last edited by Finnegan; 11-05-2009 at 01:38 PM.. |
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"It's always difficult translating prices from Europe to the U.S. Nevertheless, the M3 GTS will sell for 115,000 Euros including a 19% VAT, or the equivalent of about $171,000. A more apt price comparison -- assuming the M3 GTS makes it to the U.S. at all -- would be using the assumption that the car might sell for the same proportion above the regular M3 Coupe as it will in Germany. That would place the M3 GTS' price at about $98,000." |
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Then there are the idiots on here, who think they can out engineer BMW in their own garage buying aftermaket parts. |
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Haha tru...except I'd like to see an M3 GTS only series. Amateurs only......no hiring a pro to do 2/3 of the race and win it for you.
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Honestly, with the exception of a few, most of the parts we see from day to day on this forum are really BS; while they may provide a small performance advantage, I think they are mostly for show. Think about the scoops that everyone is buying up (questionable performance there). How about all the pulleys and ECU flashes. They may provide up front performance but what happens when you hurt something? They haven't been fully tested or performed real scientific analysis. Even the SC kits. We have heard of engines blowing. Essentially, BMW will offer a product that is meant to be used; bulletproof if you will. In the case of a malfunction, BMW is there to fix the problem. What I am trying to say is that it pays to be careful. Even when buying a set of aftermarket wheels. Have you seen the thread on the 18lb flow-formed wheel? Simple engineering analysis will tell you that those wheels can be dangerous. Very few aftermarket companies have anything to lose. Most of them will just close up shop and resurface under a different name (i.e. 360 forged). That is why they sometimes sell parts regardless of the truth behind them. ...reminds me. Have you seen that AFE intake? C'mon, gimme a freakin break. Performance my a$$. Anyone can tweak their Dyno to reflect inaccurate values. -SZ |
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No 6MT? That's a bummer
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lol...
nope.
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Nope. DCT only project.
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