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For 50k less, the M3 is a pretty capable car compared to 997 PDK 385hp...not to mention a more practical car as well.
And if the P driver is not very skilled, I can give him a good run for his money....
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02-28-2011, 02:41 AM | #24 |
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All that extra money for 2-3% extra performance seems like a poor return. Drive them back to back and there is no annihilation....that sort of hyperbole just sounds like badge snobbery.
Porsche need to seriously up their game with the 997, upstarts like the M3 shouldn't be snapping at its heels. |
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02-28-2011, 03:24 AM | #25 |
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As I said these two cars are two total different animal. Sport sedan vs sports car is not fair. 997 you can hardly fit someone at the back. You hardly have enough space at front trunk. BMW M3 can do all these no problem. So M3 is not bad for what you pay for.
Need space and good performer get the M3 Need no space and excellent performer get the 997 Despite the speed and everything. I find FR is easier to drive than RR car. Heck, I'd be going faster in the M3 than C2S. If you are too afraid you can always get the C4/C4S |
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Are you happy now? Jeez.... Edit: I respect your opinion, I just get exasperated because sometimes it's difficult on this forum to make a point without everyone jumping to the first line of your thread without reading the rest. Again- I said it was close, not annihilation. Of course there are aspects of both cars that are inferior and superior, we can argue them indefinitely all day as has been done on this forum. Thanks!
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Porsche buyers, in part, buy into the marque, which is lucky for Porsche because if they had to sell solely on performance/dollar the 997 sales would surely struggle. |
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02-28-2011, 02:25 PM | #30 |
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Regular Carrera or S don't do much for me.It's GT3 or bust when it comes to Porsche.If its gonna be sports car I'm buying its got to be an uncompromising all out sports car and that exactly what Porsche GT cars are.
M3 is best all around car for me.Can do it all except carry drywall from the local home depot |
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Steering is always stiff can get uncomfortable after a long drive A Porsche is the perfect second car.... but not the best to be your only car. I loved my previous porches... and I want a P car again But I can't have it as my only car, I'd break my back lol The M I can be in comfort mode and barely feel anything Then put it in Sport+ and have a go at it :P though in Sport+ it still doesn't handle as well as a Porsche, but I bought a 2ton vert to enjoy daily driving over pin point rail driving
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02-28-2011, 05:04 PM | #32 |
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Perhaps BMW could market a performance option to produce a similar drive to the 997.2
An extra 15bhp, a little stiffer suspension and a tweak to the set up to give livelier steering. I would think $5k would do it....and you end up with the same drive but still have the extra seats and extra boot space as well as a wad of cash left over. Porsche drivers would be queuing up to buy such a car!! Or maybe not. |
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I was actually shocked that the 997.2S was only .1 sec faster around the ring vs. the 997.1S time of 7:59 with the sport suspension and PASM on sport. That all being said, to be fast with a 997S you really have to know how to drive it. The M3 is a much easier car to go fast in while the 997S you really have to learn the car to go fast. Dave
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Thats great. All that above is based on opinions. C & D had the opinion in an issue that a M3 was better than a 911 turbo and GTR. Does that make the M3 better then a 911 turbo because there is a link on it out there?? I'm just sayin' the 911 (even the S) isn't that great of a car for the money if you compare it to the M3. You guys lovin' off 911's are smoking P crack and then dropping the GT3 RS in there is just dumb; its a lightweight and roll caged race car thats freaking street legal. How is that even remotely similar to a M3? |
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this is the biggest con of p cars. if i want pdk with paddle shifters, its gonna cost me over 5k, vs less than 3k for m-dct.
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same situation with the m3. |
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03-03-2011, 02:21 AM | #41 |
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lol, and i just need to get into medical school. lol. waiting for the 991 or 981 sucks, but lotta ppl are speculating that they wont disappoint...which is more than i can say for the f3x m3
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