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      04-06-2008, 01:27 PM   #45
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Isn't it absolutely amazing that BMW still has not coordinated some test of a broken in car by journalists? Terrible IMHO.

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Maybe they are just going to wait to do it in the vert. They've already had the coupe and sedan covered in mags, even though with the manual tranny. In reality, I wonder how many car models get covered in magazines with all their different engine and transmission availabilities? Maybe it is not that big of a deal for BMW ... you would think so though.
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      04-06-2008, 01:41 PM   #46
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Thanks for the vids. Great Stuff.
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      04-06-2008, 02:01 PM   #47
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sweet videos, sarge... thanks.... I'll definitely be considering dct for my next m3... maybe for the sedan now if I can only get my freakin' car already
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      04-06-2008, 02:04 PM   #48
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First vid was D5 and 2nd and 3rd were S-5.
Thanks mate, well now I am officially impressed, it seems from the video at least that BMW have pretty smooth shifts up to S-5.

Please can you confirm that these shift we are witnessing are a smooth as we believe. It does look to me that the technology is safe in BMW's hand.

SMSgt,

I forgot to ask if you had previous experience with SMG and if so how does it compare.
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      04-06-2008, 02:20 PM   #49
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awesome vid.
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      04-06-2008, 02:33 PM   #50
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Go out and drive more! We want to see WOT and no DSC in S6!
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      04-06-2008, 02:34 PM   #51
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Thanks for the awesome vids. I second the sentiment to please be careful filming and driving at the same time.

I had to play the second and third vids a couple times-- the quickness of the shifts caught me off-guard initially. Normally, I associate such quick changes of engine tone with an F1 engine at 19,000 rpm!

What an awesome gearbox.
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      04-06-2008, 03:24 PM   #52
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Amazingly smooth and quick! Can't wait...2 more days!
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      04-06-2008, 03:31 PM   #53
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      04-06-2008, 03:39 PM   #54
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Maybe they are just going to wait to do it in the vert. They've already had the coupe and sedan covered in mags, even though with the manual tranny. In reality, I wonder how many car models get covered in magazines with all their different engine and transmission availabilities? Maybe it is not that big of a deal for BMW ... you would think so though.
I suspect they are "waiting" to have M-DCT tested with the Vert. Indeed most combinations of engines/trannies (and of course other options) do not get tested by journos. Here however, we are talking about a pretty important option. They did release a 20 or so page technical bulletin covering the trans so they must agree it is a big deal. Any option good for +20 hp and +20 ft lb (equivalent) while improving mpg is IMHO not just a big deal but a really big deal.
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      04-06-2008, 03:44 PM   #56
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Thanks mate, well now I am officially impressed, it seems from the video at least that BMW have pretty smooth shifts up to S-5.
You are funny. Do these videos really give you any insight whatsoever into how fast or smooth the tranny is? I enjoyed them immensely as well but they don't really tell me much other than the shifts are quicker than me rowing a MT.
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      04-06-2008, 05:56 PM   #57
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      04-06-2008, 06:27 PM   #58
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Nice Vids...thanks for the work!
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      04-06-2008, 07:12 PM   #59
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      04-06-2008, 07:56 PM   #60
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making the wait for all of us so much easier, thanks! awesome
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      04-06-2008, 08:15 PM   #61
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making the wait for all of us so much harder, thanks! awesome
I fixed your reply.
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      04-06-2008, 10:09 PM   #62
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In the last video, what is the green light on the dash (upper right of speedo, left of Tach)?
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      04-07-2008, 02:00 AM   #63
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2nd n 3rd vid have me sold for m-dct
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      04-07-2008, 02:37 AM   #64
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holy shit that actually seems like it does shift faster then my brother's M5. thanks for the vids... my decision has now been made.

btw, im sure it DOES go all the way to S6 just like the M5 and M6 right? and those were only on S5? WOW.
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      04-07-2008, 02:37 AM   #65
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2nd n 3rd vid have me sold for m-dct
What specifically "sold" you in the videos? I am really curious. I completely fail to see how these videos offer enough evidence for someone who was undecided to now fully commit to M-DCT. Granted the videos are very cool. Mostly IMHO just because it is much closer to the driving experience than reading about it and doing simulations. Reading and simulations may be boring to many, but they really tell us way more about transmission than these videos. Could it be just the "a picture is worth 1000 words" phenomena?

Specifically, long before these vids we knew:

M-DCT would shift very fast
M-DCT will rev match on downshift
M-DCT will have paddles and and an automatic mode
etc., etc., etc.
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      04-07-2008, 02:44 AM   #66
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What specifically "sold" you in the videos? I am really curious. I completely fail to see how these videos offer enough evidence for someone who was undecided to now fully commit to M-DCT. Granted the videos are very cool. Mostly IMHO just because it is much closer to the driving experience than reading about it and doing simulations. Reading and simulations may be boring to many, but they really tell us way more about transmission than these videos. Could it be just the "a picture is worth 1000 words" phenomena?

Specifically, long before these vids we knew:

M-DCT would shift very fast
M-DCT will rev match on downshift
M-DCT will have paddles and and an automatic mode
etc., etc., etc.
maybe because he actually got to see 2nd person view how fast it REALLY does shift?

of course driving one for yourself is different though...
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