Car died while driving ///Fixed!

vain_os · 05-11-2015, 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by BaseM3

This makes sence. Have had this happen before on other vehicles. A code read will tell for sure. No wait! Is got to be the rod bearings. What are you guys smokin?

I checked the voltage of the injectors and it was normal, so it is not the crank sensor..

heart_doctor · 05-11-2015, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by vain_os

Ok so a new development, i opened the intake manifold up and sprayed some brake cleaner in the cylinders while cranking the car and it turned over and started. Guess theres no gas being delivered, so im assuming its the fuel pump..running more tests

Seriously. Put some gas in it. I wouldn't trust that you had "24 miles" left.

Sco Cuddie · 05-11-2015, 08:45 PM

My buddy had a similar issue, car shut off on the freeway and wouldn't start back up.

He thought of everything from rod bearings to bad steering sensor...

He was out of gas...

Please put gas in it, the indicator is a bit misleading. My buddies car showed 36 miles remaining, but not enough to get the engine started...

vain_os · 05-11-2015, 08:58 PM

Problem is that this same issue happened when I had a quarter full...

My buddy says the fuel injector relay isnt getting enough voltage to open the injectors and send fuel..the fuel pump is working as it should..theres a spark..i dont know. it sounds like an electrical issue.

Also, the fuel line sprayed gas out when i disconnected it to test

heart_doctor · 05-12-2015, 05:28 AM

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Originally Posted by vain_os

Problem is that this same issue happened when I had a quarter full...

My buddy says the fuel injector relay isnt getting enough voltage to open the injectors and send fuel..the fuel pump is working as it should..theres a spark..i dont know. it sounds like an electrical issue.

Also, the fuel line sprayed gas out when i disconnected it to test

It doesn't sound like a major issue. Why not just bring it to your local BMW dealer and see what it will cost to fix?

vain_os · 05-12-2015, 05:30 AM

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Originally Posted by heart_doctor

It doesn't sound like a major issue. Why not just bring it to your local BMW dealer and see what it will cost to fix?

tow fee, diagnostic fee, potentially massive bill.

im having the special tool brought tomorrow to check the injectors and measure the fuel pressure as well

thekurgan · 05-12-2015, 07:50 AM

Did you put more fuel in the tank yet or no?

RAFiK - BMWClubUAE · 05-12-2015, 07:52 AM

OneSickM · 05-12-2015, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by thekurgan

Did you put more fuel in the tank yet or no?

The HACK · 05-12-2015, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by vain_os

I changed the battery last week, does it need to get 'programmed' for it to work?

Almost all newer BMWs (anything made after 2006 except the E85/E85) require the battery to be "registered" for the alternator to charge it properly.

Bet you it's as simple as the battery's not "registered" and it hasn't been charging since last week when you bought it, now it's completely drained.

whats77inaname · 05-12-2015, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by The HACK

Almost all newer BMWs (anything made after 2006 except the E85/E85) require the battery to be "registered" for the alternator to charge it properly.

Bet you it's as simple as the battery's not "registered" and it hasn't been charging since last week when you bought it, now it's completely drained.

Negative. Even without registration, the battery will still charge, although not at the most optimum level. I purchased a Diehard and drove around on it for 2 months before registering it. Car worked just fine.

heart_doctor · 05-12-2015, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by vain_os

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Originally Posted by heart_doctor

It doesn't sound like a major issue. Why not just bring it to your local BMW dealer and see what it will cost to fix?

tow fee, diagnostic fee, potentially massive bill.

im having the special tool brought tomorrow to check the injectors and measure the fuel pressure as well

Please let us know what you find. I hope it's nothing serious!

BPMSport · 05-12-2015, 02:11 PM

According to the faults you posted a picture of, they are all for: Cylinder # Injector Circuit High, Low, or Circuit/Open. If you read it with a generic scanner and provide the P code, I can tell you which one of the three it is.

The repair instructions for this indicate:
1. Check plug and wiring harness on injection valve
2. Check valve, replace as indicated

Since it's for all of them, I would venture to say it's a wiring issue common to all of the injectors, or a faulty DME.

vain_os · 05-12-2015, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike Benvo

According to the faults you posted a picture of, they are all for: Cylinder # Injector Circuit High, Low, or Circuit/Open. If you read it with a generic scanner and provide the P code, I can tell you which one of the three it is.

The repair instructions for this indicate:
1. Check plug and wiring harness on injection valve
2. Check valve, replace as indicated

Since it's for all of them, I would venture to say it's a wiring issue common to all of the injectors, or a faulty DME.

no pulse to injectors..getting another guy here in a bit to check further.

faulty dme is fixed electronically? or replacing hardware?

BPMSport · 05-12-2015, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by vain_os

no pulse to injectors..getting another guy here in a bit to check further.

faulty dme is fixed electronically? or replacing hardware?

If the injectors are not pulsing because the DME is failing to ground the injector pins, then the DME itself may be faulty if everything else is ok. It's very rare that a DME goes bad on these cars, but I've seen it from time to time.

It's likely some sort of other electrical/wiring issue going on..

Beemdog · 05-12-2015, 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike Benvo

If the injectors are not pulsing because the DME is failing to ground the injector pins, then the DME itself may be faulty if everything else is ok. It's very rare that a DME goes bad on these cars, but I've seen it from time to time.

It's likely some sort of other electrical/wiring issue going on..

I noticed in post #1 that electrical work had been done on the car this year (changed starter and throttle actuator). Bet that something was pinched/left loose in that engine wiring harness.

WhatsADSM · 05-12-2015, 07:58 PM

Agreed. If the DME was the culprit it would be surprising that it could find its own fault. Also the fact that it threw it for all of the injectors and its so intermittent suggests wiring. How did you verify that the injectors weren't pulsing (you would need a scope to do so)?

///M Power-Belgium · 05-13-2015, 09:24 AM

OP what's up ? Update ?

e92zero · 05-13-2015, 09:55 AM

possible to be the fuse?

vain_os · 05-13-2015, 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

OP what's up ? Update ?

nothing yet guys, ill see if i can get any news today.

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Originally Posted by e92zero

possible to be the fuse?

to be honest i havent even opened up the fuse box yet , but will do today i will let you guys know

///M Power-Belgium · 05-13-2015, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by vain_os

nothing yet guys, ill see if i can get any news today.

to be honest i havent even opened up the fuse box yet , but will do today i will let you guys know

Got it...Please keep us posted .
Hope you get it fixed soon...

heart_doctor · 05-14-2015, 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by heart_doctor

It doesn't sound like a major issue. Why not just bring it to your local BMW dealer and see what it will cost to fix?

tow fee, diagnostic fee, potentially massive bill.

im having the special tool brought tomorrow to check the injectors and measure the fuel pressure as well

Update?

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WhatsADSM Lieutenant 232 Rep 538 Posts Drives: 2011 135i Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Milwaukee iTrader: (2)	Agreed. If the DME was the culprit it would be surprising that it could find its own fault. Also the fact that it threw it for all of the injectors and its so intermittent suggests wiring. How did you verify that the injectors weren't pulsing (you would need a scope to do so)?
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