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In summary, I much prefer my NA V8 with 8,300-rpm redline, 6MT, and 414 HP than an Fxx M3 with 1,000 HP, DCT, and a quad-turbo V or I-6 that does 0-60 in 2 seconds . I don't need more than my M3 provides. The M3 can be improved in a ton of ways, but forgoing the NA V8 for even more power was pretty stupid IMO. Just make the car a bit lighter, and the S65 cheaper and more fuel efficient with a single TB (like most other cars). And rather than spending the money on developing a new engine, spend it on better suspension (not freaking struts), and many other things that'd make the car much more appealing IMO. Oh no, but it has to have more power, which needs beefier and heavier drivetrain/suspension components, etc.; a vicious circle. Hope they succeed, but I won't buy another M3. Last edited by JCtx; 10-18-2010 at 04:21 PM.. |
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10-18-2010, 03:46 PM | #48 |
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I wonder how many DCT M3s compared to 6MT were sold?
If its like the C6 Corvette (non Z06.ZR1), where autos outsell manuals 2 to 1 maybe BMW just doesnt want to develop a new manual trans/clutch to take the extra pounding of a 450+hp turbo 6 cylinder if the present DCT can handle it. As for the rest of it, some people think the E46 M3 is a better car than these so change is hard on enthusiasts, but if the new one performs better than the old one (and looks decent) thats all that matters to me.. |
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10-18-2010, 03:52 PM | #49 | |
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10-18-2010, 03:53 PM | #50 |
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i hope the next M3 is not going to be a twin turbo, even though it seems thats the direction BMW is going.
If so, i'll stick with the e9X m3 b/c it would be the last N/A engine. That and we all know about the on going class action law suite against the N54 engine and its turbo problems.... if BMW keeps this up, i'll just keep my e60 M5, get the e9X m3, then thats it. Unless they change, I may just move on to another brand.
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10-18-2010, 03:59 PM | #51 |
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Is there any proof or technical reason they cant offer a manual? BMW knows many of us want a manual and they are also absorbing other car sales that dropped manual options(audi rs-5). I think a manual will continue.
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10-18-2010, 04:05 PM | #52 |
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South, Are you able to tell us where this "speculation" is coming from? Great news for us sedan owners!
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i am curious too about the sales mix between DCT and 6MT
does anyone know if the GTS shares the same gearbox as the regular M3? if so then they already have a gearbox that can handle 450hp issue might be the torque, which will be a lot more than 300 now i'd guess closer or just above 400lb/ft so let's get this straight no N/A no MT why don't we just call it S3 for sellout/sissy 3? why even keep the M name anymore? |
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10-18-2010, 05:18 PM | #55 |
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i have a very hard time believing there will be no 6MT. probably just speculation created see what people would say, at least i hope thats what it is. this isnt even expected to go on sale until when, 2014? there will be plenty of crazy rumors till then, i'll start believing them around 2013
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Assuming the X3 M gets the green light, yes. Best regards, south
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10-18-2010, 05:46 PM | #58 | |
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10-18-2010, 06:06 PM | #60 |
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What about a small twin scroll turbo that gives way to twin single scroll turbos ar higher RPMs...? Helps to get rid of turbo lag at low RPMs while allowing a huge amount of flow up to redline...
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10-18-2010, 06:26 PM | #62 |
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Rumors rumors rumors, dont worry about it guys, im pretty sure there will be a 6MT.
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10-18-2010, 06:27 PM | #63 |
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Final sale figures of the SMG II on the E46 M3 was 50/50. My guess is that it's higher than that with the E9x, in favor of the twin-clutch system. Maybe 70/30? We'll see when final production numbers come out.
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Are you saying they will still be producing E9x M3's long after the F3x 3 series is in production? Not sure I believe that...
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10-18-2010, 06:56 PM | #65 |
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^ they wont, history repeats itself, it will take a break just as it did when e46 quit production...
---------- Can't wait to pick up a loaded last model year e90 M3 when its about 3 years used... I don't have anything against this idea of the next M3 (except no MT, that would be a TOTAL deal breaker for me), just love that V8!
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Can SCOTT or anyone with more info please tell us approximately when (month and year) the E9x M3's production will end? And possibly break the dates down to E90, E92 and E93.
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