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I wonder why in germany everyone can track their car in the nurburgring. You can see so many people there and it looks so easy to get in. I highly doubt all those fiats and golfs you see in youtube in that track can afford thousands of euros of membership fees. |
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Tires and oil changes I consider as a regular maintenance on a car of this caliber,no way around that. Sucks that you've gotta shell out upwards of a grand to attend a track day out there,but there's gotta be someone out there doing track days like we have out here in CA. |
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http://nybmwcca.org/school.php This past event was $240 per student with BMWCCA. You can find other clubs to run with that will cost way less than $400 a day. You need to search more. Windy City BMW have track days all over. Even Autobahn events that cost about $380 but that includes two full days with an instructor. I dont know why anyone would want to just go on a track and let loose without any experience and no instructor. That alone sounds dangerous.
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here look at this: https://www.extremespeedtrackevents....t-registration $150 for Button Willow, you get 5 sessions, each about 20-25 minutes long. $100 (with free lunch too!) for Streets of Willow and you get 5 sessions, each about 20-25 minutes long. $110 for Big Willow, also with free lunch. http://www.speeddistrict.com/ Button Willow, only high-end cars, LOTS of track time (50 drivers, 8 hours on the track), $240 ($205 if you registered early) It also includes professional photos, so you can say you're only paying about $150 or 180 (after discount expired). So I don't have $20k per year, nor do I have to pay $400 for a track day with only 5-6 laps... In July, I'll prly end up spending about $500 on track fees and another $500 on gas, brake and tire wear, and motels. but that's 4 track days in one month... if I did just SOW, that would be about $250, track fee and gas include. I just feel like going all out-ish in July
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Wow,auto crosses can be fun in a small lightweight car,but for a car like this you need an open track to really appreciate the engineering under the skin.Not sure if I would buy an M3 if I could not drive it in the environment it was designed in.I don't give s shiet about the badge or the looks.
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Because track days are like masturbation?
Seriously though, I used to think people who didn't do some kind of performance driving in their performance cars weren't hardcore. Then I turned 17 and I was grown up enough to realize that's a stupid way to look at the world. It's a personal choice and nobody on here is in a position to judge anybody else.
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You want to know why?
Long long time ago, I have a ton of friends that would go to the track on a fairly regular basis. At the time I was happy just tooling around in my car and putting tens of thousands of dollars into "modding" it for fun. I didn't care about "the track" because, why should anyone pay good money to go around and drive your car, when driving on the street is perfectly free? I didn't see what the allure is. Plus I was already god's gift to drivers, I passed my driving test with perfect scores...Why should I learn how to drive fast when I already know how to drive fast? Then one day, the group of track buddies asked if I wanted to go to Vegas. They have the room paid for, I just have to ride up and ride back with someone, but I'd get a free weekend in Vegas, on one condition: That I'd get a ride from one of the BMW CCA instructors at the event. Free trip to Vegas? Sign me up! The rest was history. I got a ride from a very good instructor from the Road Runner chapter of BMW CCA and next thing I know, I just absolutely had to try my hands at this. In a way, I wish I hadn't, since this "sport" cost me more every year than a good cocaine habit would cost. And I don't even pay for track time anymore. But it is what it is. It's like trying to convince someone that's never skydived that skydiving is a thrill of a lifetime. Or trying to convince a life-long Atheist that his salvation lies in belief in someone named Jesus Christ. It's something that, unless it's experienced, and experienced in a manner where the dude or dudette showing you how to to do this are absolute PROFESSIONALS at it...You'll never get it or understand it. And just like skydiving and Jesus Christ, some people never like it or get it. I don't. I'm still a life long Atheist despite my wife being "born again" and her numerous attempts at getting me to go to church. I've never and will never try skydiving no matter how "fun" it is. It just ain't me. And the "high performance driving" game isn't for everyone. There are people who buy high performance cars just to get from point A to point B or just to look good. In fact, those probably far out-number "us." There's nothing wrong with that, it's just a simple fact...It. Is. What. It. Is. There's no point trying to understand it.
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I think everyone should get out there and experience track driving, but if it's not your thing so be it.
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I dont own an M3 but I do have a fast 335i tehee, I am nervous about going to the track... I can drive well but I dont know if I can DRIVE WELL if you know what I mean. I am dying to track my car, I just dont know when the best time/event would be.
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I have never tracked my M3. I'm a poser? |
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Start with car control clinic. Do couple autox. See how you like those. HPDE events are very different then CCC or autox, but at least you get some ideas, and most importantly you start to learn the limits of your car and yourself.
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I think a primary reason is that people are afraid of crashing at high speed. I don't think that's an unreasonable fear, since the idea behind going to the track should be to learn to approach the limits of the car.
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I will deff have to look into this... I have done a lot of K1speed karting and shit LOL but I know its a different animal. I might do the next big track day and pay for instruction as well. I think that would be sweeeet
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The cost of the track day may be $100 on special or $200 if you are lucky or $400 for some, but your car is not covered by your insurance on the track. You can take the risk or you can pay another $200 or more for insurance per track day. The costs do add up. I have taken my E90M3 to a high performance driving school and to the drag strip, but I am not as rich as most people here so I will probably track my E36M3 instead if I decide to do track days.
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