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No replacement for displacement. The V8 TT has something to do with that advantage on the top gear end.
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m5/m6 wouldnt really matter. In fact the M5 weighs less and I would suspect is faster in a straight line. No one has explained though how the m6 for being a few tenths faster on paper managed to pull 10 car lengths. At both those cars level of performance doesnt make sense. Can someone explain this then?^
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No. Again, where are people getting this notion? Are the two extra doors and windows on the M5 are made of weight-canceling transparent aluminum?
The m5 is both heavier and slower. The actual tested weights for the two cars are shown in the link below. http://www.caranddriver.com/features...t-laps-feature M5: 4425 M6: 4219 I also posted the link to the heads up drag race between the two. Not surprisingly, the M6 is two tenths and 2mph faster in the 1/4 mile.
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It is painfully frustrating, as a 3 pedals driver, to see a fellow stick shift car being driven that way. It is pathetic and a sad representation of what the Z06 can do. With good shifting that Z should be able to pull 1 or 2 cars on the M5 easily. |
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Speeds over 130 go to the m6 anything below is clearly the gtrs domain. That's why the video is bogus. It isn't because the Nissan launches better.
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Ill give credit where credit is due. It's hard to deny what a machine the gtr is, doesn't mean that it will blow away any car in any kind of race. I believe many cars may have an advantage over the gtr if the race starts at 100mph. Including even an older e63 m6. The power seems to fizzle out a bit in the gtr north of 100mph just like many other turbo charged cars. Last edited by KKM3; 02-13-2013 at 02:36 AM.. |
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02-13-2013, 06:33 AM | #52 | |
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WoW. Do you know the difference between DCT and archaic MT. Z06 falls behind with each shift because no person is capable of shifting faster than DCT. There is a pause with MT no matter how fast you shift but DCT is almost seemless. In E92 M3 DCT shifts are lightning fast and imagine DCT in F10 which is improved version of what is in E92 M3. Imagine what the Z06 could do with DCT but no, GM has to stick to old WW2 Tranny. As for M6 being heavier than M5. Which retard is posting that as fact? M6 is always lighter than M5 and even more weight difference this time between the new cars and M6 has better aero. There are cars faster than 458 just as there will be cars faster than GTR. Why is that so hard to admit. GTR LC is incredible but useless in roll and real world head up race you see on the street. No one stops on the highway to line up so you can use LC. Nissan has done a good job pimping it's PR it's just absurd the lengths people go to defend that car. On track it has no equal yes but straight line and much higher speeds you encounter in real world it is not as strong as most think. Last edited by Falcao; 02-13-2013 at 07:59 AM.. |
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this is fucking comical to say the least
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OK we're cool. I'm not trying to be a person saying the GTR can destroy anything in any situation because it can't. The M6 is an extremely fast car, especially high up. My problem is that the video showed an M6 pulling down low. That wouldn't happen if both cars were in good working order, in stock form, and being driven equally aggressively. This video would make sense to me if it were the stock 485 HP version of the GTR from 09-11 but it doesn't if its the 2012 to 2014 revs. The newer GTRs are a lot faster in stock form. I will admit I have a particular dislike of the M6 because I owned a 2006 M6 for a year and was the single worst car I have ever owned by a substantial margin. And I have owned an X6M, which uses basically the same engine as the current M5/6. I liked the SUV but wasn't overly impressed with the engine.
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ALL of you should go back and do the following:
1.) watch the video again from beginning to end, if you quoted M5 in any of your posts, you're a moron, every post you made is nil and void and you're clearly too stupid to catch on. Stop posting in this thread, you proved your're a moron, now shhh and go play with your matchbox... TTHHFHHFHANNNNXXXX 2.) for the idiots that posted and commented on the M5 vs Corvette or GTR videos... see point 1 and replicate, TTTHHHANAFFANKKXXXXX 3.) for anyone here that quoted 0-60mph times of the GTR or any other car for that matter in this thread... see point 1 and replicate, TTTHHHANAFFANKKXXXXX 4.) now that weeded out the complete morons, and retained anyone who has any sense in either hemisphere of their brain, go read the original thread here http://www.6post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=802147 and READ EVERY SINGLE POST, if you fall into one of the categories in those posts... see point 1 and replicate, TTTHHHANAFFANKKXXXXX 5.) Not many left that should comment Therefore end thread... because officially more than 50% of you are morons and should legally be forbidden to have children. And if you have children, give them up for adoption to people who are capable of raising children and teaching them something (fuck, anything), instead of pure uncanny STU-FUCKING-PIDTY. Thanks. |
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Still, the fact that a big, luxurious comfy sedan (or coupe, in the case of the M6) can run close to a Z06 is worthy of a big thumbs up, in my opinion. Bruce |
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I really don't understand the bias against turbocharged cars. It is extremely efficient and makes a ton of torque and horsepower from recycling exhaust gas. With modern technology, turbo lag is pretty much non-existent. It isn't the 80s anymore, turbos are very much different. Turbos are used in everything from Formula 1 to economy cars. The only reasons to not like turbo is if you don't like power and torque.
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The biggest reasons for me are sound and throttle response. Some like the nature of a high revving Na motor. I love and own/owned great cars like Porsche gt3, e46 and e92 m3, and my current r8 v10 brings so much joy when I hit tht gas that no other FI car can do for me. |
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http://www.m3post.com/forums/attachm...1&d=1360788751 http://www.m3post.com/forums/attachm...1&d=1360788751 Just goes to show how much you REALLY know about BMW!!! Last edited by DreamerM6; 02-13-2013 at 02:53 PM.. |
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It's noted at the beginning of the video that the M6 has aftermarket fog lights installed behind the grilles of the air intakes in the front bumper.
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