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[slicer]

Some pics for you to see various wheel sizes and offsets. I hope this helps

18x9.5 et19
275/35/18 Michelin PSS

18x10.5 et19
285/35/18 Michelin PSS

IMG_0459 by slicerM, on Flickr

18x10 et17
275/35/18 Michelin PSS

18x11 et18
285/35/18 Michelin PSS

IMG_0394 by slicerM, on Flickr

18x9.5 et17
275/35/18 Hankook RS3

18x10.5 et25
285/35/18 Hankook RS3

IMG_0117 by slicerM, on Flickr

18x9.5 et17
275/35/18 Hankook RS3

18x10.5 et22
285/35/18 Hankook RS3

IMG_9808 by slicerM, on Flickr

IMG_9806 by slicerM, on Flickr

19x9 et20
275/30/19 Yokohama AD08

19x10 et25
295/30/19 Yokohama AD08

IMG_9974 by slicerM, on Flickr

18x10 et25
275/35/18 BFG G-Force Rival

18x11 et25
295/35/18 BFG G-Force Rival

image by slicerM, on Flickr

18x9.5 et22
275/35/18 BFG G-Force Rival

18x10.5 et25
295/35/18 BFG G-Force Rival

image by slicerM, on Flickr

[TahoeM3]

Those all look extremely aggressive. It's hard to imagine that you don't having rubbing over bumps and potholes. Mine isn't a track car, I want to keep the daily drivability. I'm a married professional in my early 40s...those look too boy racer for me.

[slicer]

Originally Posted by TahoeM3

Those all look extremely aggressive. It's hard to imagine that you don't having rubbing over bumps and potholes. Mine isn't a track car, I want to keep the daily drivability. I'm a married professional in my early 40s...those look too boy racer for me.

No Rubbing on any of those set ups.

Boy racer.. you may be in your early 40's but you sound like you are in your 70's.

I wasn't trying to sell you on my wheel choices. I was trying to show you some fitment examples with various wheel specs, all of which are equal to or more aggressive than your wheels which you believe are "wrong". You may also notice that my wheel choices are predominantly 18". My 18" setup is actual more comfortable and durable for daily driving than your 19" choice. Lastly I have chosen quality wheels that are less likely to bend or brake when hitting a pothole - compared to the cast replica wheels that you chose.

I really think you should stick with OEM wheels considering you are looking for conservative style and fitment.

[Sered]

see sig for specs. PSS 295/30 rear instead of the 305s like others show. PSS's run a bit wide. Only rubs in rear on very harsh bumps at high speeds and then only slightly. Around town there is no rubbing period.

[TahoeM3]

Originally Posted by slicer

No Rubbing on any of those set ups.

Boy racer.. you may be in your early 40's but you sound like you are in your 70's.

I wasn't trying to sell you on my wheel choices. I was trying to show you some fitment examples with various wheel specs, all of which are equal to or more aggressive than your wheels which you believe are "wrong".

I really think you should stick with OEM wheels considering you are looking for conservative style and fitment.

Ha ha...in a couple of those pics your tires are actually touching the fender edge. If it makes me too conservative that I prefer not to have my tires grinding against the fender edge and wheel well liners, so be it. Oh, and no gold wheels for me. Do you drive around with that spoiler on the street?

I want something a bit more aggressive than stock without getting too crazy. I had a set of HRE P40s on the Vantage in gunmetal gray that were perfect the first time and right at the fender edge. I didn't think it would be so difficult to do something similar here.

Thanks for posting the pics, but it seems like I have a solution worked out. I'm going to get 19x8.5 fronts et 35 plus 18mm spacers and 15mm spacers for the rear.

And then I'll still probably end up selling the car and getting an F-type V8S.

[TahoeM3]

Originally Posted by Sered

see sig for specs. PSS 295/30 rear instead of the 305s like others show. PSS's run a bit wide. Only rubs in rear on very harsh bumps at high speeds and then only slightly. Around town there is no rubbing period.

Apparently my car is a mutant.

[slicer]

Originally Posted by TahoeM3

Apparently my car is a mutant.

No he has lowering springs, some negative camber, and the 11" et25 version in the rear with 295's.... Exactly what I was telling you to do if you wanted that look.

[slicer]

Originally Posted by TahoeM3

Ha ha...in a couple of those pics your tires are actually touching the fender edge. If it makes me too conservative that I prefer not to have my tires grinding against the fender edge and wheel well liners, so be it. Oh, and no gold wheels for me. Do you drive around with that spoiler on the street?

I want something a bit more aggressive than stock without getting too crazy. I had a set of HRE P40s on the Vantage in gunmetal gray that were perfect the first time and right at the fender edge. I didn't think it would be so difficult to do something similar here.

Thanks for posting the pics, but it seems like I have a solution worked out. I'm going to get 19x8.5 fronts et 35 plus 18mm spacers and 15mm spacers for the rear.

And then I'll still probably end up selling the car and getting an F-type V8S.

There are no tires touching fenders, no rubbing in any of those pics... Good God, You are stubborn. Do you always act like this or just when you meet somebody that knows more about a topic than you do?

No gold wheels for me either, I sold those after one week.

I do drive on the street with that "spoiler" but it's not a daily driver. I have two trunks, one with the BMW performance lip and a second one with a GTS wing. I completely understand that you wouldn't want to daily drive a car set up like mine (I don't want to either). I was never trying to convince you that you should. I would however daily drive a M3 that looks like the one in the picture you posted... Reasonable ride height, a little camber, and proper flush wheel fitment. In fact I daily drove a similar set up year round when I lived in MN where there are actual potholes, snow, and road obstacles.

I hope your new solution works for you.

[Brian0473]

Slicer - I'm actually really glad this thread is here because of the time and effort you put into it to show all those tire/wheel combos...and your car is the same color as mine so it really helps to see the various setups.

Tahoe - I think you should buy an F-type.

[TahoeM3]

I really do appreciate your input and posts. But it's not just stubbornness...it's based on past experience. I've been down this road before. Whenever I have lowered a car, and I have many times, the downsides outweighed the benefits. And I've done the negative camber thing before and it was fine for a while until the tires developed a flat spot and started wobbling.

I had stock suspension on my E46 M3 that I got in 2001 with aftermarket Hamann wheels...they sat right at the fender edge and didn't require suspension changes. I ran that setup for years without problems.

If the setup I want is for a 70 yr old, I guess the stock M3 was designed for a 90 yr old? I don't know...I just want a set of wheels that sit at the fender edge...not sticking out past it as these currently do...and don't require suspension changes that based on my experience will make the car a less desirable daily driver. Shouldn't be that hard.

[Eazy-E90]

Originally Posted by TahoeM3

Those all look extremely aggressive. It's hard to imagine that you don't having rubbing over bumps and potholes. Mine isn't a track car, I want to keep the daily drivability. I'm a married professional in my early 40s...those look too boy racer for me.

A married professional but you drive a GTR? You're a douche.

[slicer]

My prediction is that we will soon see a follow-up thread from the OP with complaints about spacers, wheel vibrations, etc.

[TahoeM3]

Originally Posted by Eazy-E90

A married professional but you drive a GTR? You're a douche.

So...how exactly does being a married professional with a GTR make me a "douche," Eazy-E90?

[tinman831]

Originally Posted by TahoeM3

Thanks for posting the pics, but it seems like I have a solution worked out. I'm going to get 19x8.5 fronts et 35 plus 18mm spacers and 15mm spacers for the rear.

And then I'll still probably end up selling the car and getting an F-type V8S.

Why not just get the wheels with the proper offset from the beginning?

[TahoeM3]

Originally Posted by tinman831

Why not just get the wheels with the proper offset from the beginning?

Please see above, starting from post #1. In a nutshell, I tried, but was told that these wheels were the right fit and my order was changed by the vendor. I didn't realize the rears would need spacers, but that's no big deal...I have now ordered those.

The fronts are ultimately the problem, but I am going to get them swapped out with a size that is a better fit for me and use spacers to make it flush with the fenders. There are only a couple of options on size and offset for this wheel for this car.

[Gfunk720]

Originally Posted by TahoeM3

I had stock suspension on my E46 M3 that I got in 2001 with aftermarket Hamann wheels...they sat right at the fender edge and didn't require suspension changes. I ran that setup for years without problems.

I just want a set of wheels that sit at the fender edge...not sticking out past it as these currently do...and don't require suspension changes that based on my experience will make the car a less desirable daily driver. Shouldn't be that hard.

You posted a picture of the look you were going for and multiple people have told you what you need to achieve it. You simply don't want the advice, and are convinced that you have the wrong wheels for your car. Changing your camber will not cause flat spots, or wobbling. Maybe wear faster on the inner tire, but nothing more if setup properly.

I run a wider wheel and lower offset for the front on my car and they certainly don't stick out past the fender. I think some of the angles you are looking at the wheels from make it look that way. Either way the offset is very similar to what many members here are running.

Now that the wheels have tires mounted and have been put on the car, I doubt the vendor is going to do much for you.

[VMRWheels]

OP,

9.5 ET22 (Front) w/ 265/30/19 is a common setup our customers go with. From the pictures posted, you can see that everyone's suspension geometry is a bit unique. The picture you posted of the E93 is most likely lowered on springs/coils. This means a bit of negative camber (natural or dialed-in purposely) essentially "tucked" the wheel into the fender. Dialing in only a bit of camber should not contribute to premature tire wear. Generally speaking, as long as your toe settings are correct you should have no issues. As I'm sure you know, negative camber is not just for wheel fitment.. when executed properly there are benefits in handling etc (a whole other topic haha)

It is not impossible to have the 9.5 ET22 265/30/19 setup sit perfectly flush with the fender @ stock height. A few very minor tweaks to the suspension should help. (I.E. 1 degree of negative camber equates to ~3-4mm of clearance). I've seen the 9.5 ET22 sit "flush" on a stock height M3, however, I'm sure their alignment specs (natural or dialed-in purposely) may have differed a bit from yours. I'd suggest looking into working on alignment first before considering a new 8.5" setup + spacers. Much less hassle and $$

Any other questions, feel free to give me a call or shoot me PM. I'd be glad to help out

[TahoeM3]

Originally Posted by VMRWheels

OP,

9.5 ET22 (Front) w/ 265/30/19 is a common setup our customers go with. From the pictures posted, you can see that everyone's suspension geometry is a bit unique. The picture you posted of the E93 is most likely lowered on springs/coils. This means a bit of negative camber (natural or dialed-in purposely) essentially "tucked" the wheel into the fender. Dialing in only a bit of camber should not contribute to premature tire wear. Generally speaking, as long as your toe settings are correct you should have no issues. As I'm sure you know, negative camber is not just for wheel fitment.. when executed properly there are benefits in handling etc (a whole other topic haha)

It is not impossible to have the 9.5 ET22 265/30/19 setup sit perfectly flush with the fender @ stock height. A few very minor tweaks to the suspension should help. (I.E. 1 degree of negative camber equates to ~3-4mm of clearance). I've seen the 9.5 ET22 sit "flush" on a stock height M3, however, I'm sure their alignment specs (natural or dialed-in purposely) may have differed a bit from yours. I'd suggest looking into working on alignment first before considering a new 8.5" setup + spacers. Much less hassle and $$

Any other questions, feel free to give me a call or shoot me PM. I'd be glad to help out

Thanks, I'll send you a PM.

[SUBFRAMERIPPER]

Nothing against VMR but OP is going through to much trouble to fit inferior (to OEM) wheels on his car. There is plenty of useful info in this thread already.
OP, be sure to post plenty of pics of your 8.5" wheels with spacers.

[PorkchopExpress]

Originally Posted by SUBFRAMERIPPER

Nothing against VMR but OP is going through to much trouble to fit inferior (to OEM) wheels on his car. There is plenty of useful info in this thread already.
OP, be sure to post plenty of pics of your 8.5" wheels with spacers.

I knew plenty of guys that run them in AutoX or for track in my GTO days. They're quality wheels that get the job done, and VMR support is top notch.

It's cool to see a vendor reach out to a customer on a forum and offer support. Why dismiss it so easily?

[SUBFRAMERIPPER]

No one is dismissing anything. This has nothing to do with VMR. Read the entire thread and you will understand what I am saying.

[70X200]

Originally Posted by SUBFRAMERIPPER

Nothing against VMR but OP is going through to much trouble to fit inferior (to OEM) wheels on his car. There is plenty of useful info in this thread already.
OP, be sure to post plenty of pics of your 8.5" wheels with spacers.

How can you say "nothing against VMR" and in the next breath say that he is fitting inferior wheels?

Is VMR the most expensive wheel out there? Not by any means, they do however have a quality product that they are willing to stand behind. I know lots of people who are running VMR wheels and they have had nothing but good experiences with them.