Parents these days...

[BMRLVR]

Originally Posted by PINHEAD

shit like this is why I laugh at retards who say "you need a certain amount of maturity to drive yada yada"

some 16 year old kid can kill himself and others on a vespa or a corolla. Its not as if only a performance car can kill. Some people need to get out of the "pretend to be mature-responsible-successful group" and just come out admitting their fucking insecure jealous pieces of shits.

and again, a 56 year old can kill himself and others in a corolla or a Aventador just as easily as the 16year old can. I seriously laugh at those who think age defines maturity. Age defines nothing but how long you've been a piece of shit on this earth.

Shit like this is why you make the maturity statement true since you are acting extremely immature right now. I made that statement about myself and it is true, 100%!!!! "I" was too immature to have a car like an M3 when I first got my licence!!!!

Like I said in my previous post above, I agree with the fact that age is not the only deciding factor to maturity, on the contrary, many teenagers are at a maturity level that far exceeds many adults. But, at the same time, "many" (not all) kids are not mature, that is the reason that they have legal guardians, (i.e. parents) until they are adults. Maturity/responsibility is also the reason for the legal drinking ages, graduated licensing systems, legal age for voting, credit, etc. and finally that is the reason kids get tried as minors in the courts because scientifically "most" 16 year olds are not responsible/mature enough to take responsibility for their action's when they commit crimes.

Please realize that I understand that some 40 year old in a Cobalt or an F150 can be just as or even more dangerous than a 16 year old in a Ferrari, but, that is not what statistics show, statistics show that young people are more dangerous behind the wheel than adults, that is why insurance is so high for young people.

Finally, I guess I should make note on here, I am not a parent and I am also not old and judgemental/angry towards kids. I am only 31 years old and I was a kid not too long ago myself, I am just trying to be honest and realistic with everyone and myself.

[HotIce]

Originally Posted by ILSMKU

So I go to my local cheveron gas station and see a pretty nice looking light blue M3. I see RPI exhaust, HRE P40 wheels and a very young kid standing next to it looking back at mine. I assume its the owners son.

So Im filling my car up and said kid walks over to me and asks what bumper I have? Bumper??? Its the stock bumper. Do you mean my lip? I tell him what brand it is and now hes asking me if I have a super charger. I ask him if that M3 was his and he says YES???

Im not kidding guys, this kid looked 14yrs old! I immediatly asked him, what do you do for a living to afford such a nice car. He looks at me, smiles and says... "good grades and stuff". I immediatly ask him how old he is and he tell me hes only 16yrs old and has only been driving 4 months!!!

I told him, "I dont mean to sound like a dick, but your parents should be ashamed of themselves. No kid should be given a M3 as a first car period". The kid tells me he actually hears that a lot from other people. I would hope so. What is this world coming to?

Even if I was the richest man in the world, my son is going to EARN his car just like I did. Buy getting a job!! I might loan him a downpayment (like 3K for a normal 1st car), but sure as hell am not outright buying him a 60K car for good grades! Im sorry, but I think thats horrible parenting! Horriable!

I know its becoming the norm these days. But I dont have to like it.


/end of rant

Maybe you should spend the $ on spelling classes before advising others. Live and let live. He's probably going to wrap it around a pole or tree but, that's the parents choice.

[PINHEAD]

Originally Posted by BMRLVR

Shit like this is why you make the maturity statement true since you are acting extremely immature right now. I made that statement about myself and it is true, 100%!!!! "I" was too immature to have a car like an M3 when I first got my licence!!!!

Like I said in my previous post above, I agree with the fact that age is not the only deciding factor to maturity, on the contrary, many teenagers are at a maturity level that far exceeds many adults.

But, at the same time, "many" (not all) kids are not mature, that is the reason that they have legal guardians, (i.e. parents) until they are adults. Maturity/responsibility is also the reason for the legal drinking ages, graduated licensing systems, legal age for voting, credit, etc. and finally that is the reason kids get tried as minors in the courts because scientifically "most" 16 year olds are not responsible/mature enough to take responsibility for their action when they commit crimes.

Please realize that I understand that some 40 year old in a Cobalt or an F150 can be just as or even more dangerous than a 16 year old in a Ferrari, but, that is not what statistics show, statistics show that young people are more dangerous behind the wheel than adults, that is why insurance is so high for young people.

Finally, I guess I should make note on here, I am not a parent and I am also not old and judgemental/angry towards kids. I am only 31 years old and I was a kid not too long ago myself, I am just trying to be honest and realistic with everyone and myself.

actually my reply was to agree with you, not against you and I do agree with what you said. the way Ive said it may have been a bit brash but I wanted to make my point across, I ain't going to sugar coat it.

[BMRLVR]

Originally Posted by PINHEAD

actually my reply was to agree with you, not against you and I do agree with what you said. the way Ive said it may have been a bit brash but I wanted to make my point across, I ain't going to sugar coat it.

I apologize for taking it out of context. You have to admit though, it reads like you were being a bit of an ass with regards to my statement.

No harm no foul though, I like to get my point across too.

P.S.: I am extremely jealous of that ASS SHOT of your GT3RS....... And I mean extremely in the most immature wanna steal your bike sort of way!!! NICE RIDE

[highyo]

OP needs to get laid and stop worrying about people who have more money than him.

[Lorde]

http://www.m5board.com/vbulletin/e60...-5-killed.html

[dmk08]

No reason to disrespect the kid. His parents are the ones being dumb. None of us would have turned down the car at 16.

[jjw2331]

Originally Posted by LateBraking

This sounds like it could be quite interesting. Given that the amount of information presented in your query is limited, I'm currently lead to believe that you are racist against Asians, and more specifically, Koreans. I'm sure I could be terribly mistaken though, I tend to be picky about this issue as a former friend changed in the past 3 years to become a strong, racially driven supremacist. Mind entertaining the issue and expanding any?

You have the right to assume that I am a racist. Sorry, I should've expanded on my comment. I'm not racist in any way. I'm Korean. The OP's location said OC and I assumed that it stands for Orange County. If Koreans are living there, they are generally pretty well off, generally. I wanted to tell the OP not to be too concerned about it since he will see it quite often. It can't be avoided. Pretty much all the Koreans I know (and I know a lot) are proud people, and they tend to show that by buying themselves and their children nice things. It's not a stereotype, it's the truth. The nice things tend to get nicer the higher the income. lol

[CptSlow]

Originally Posted by ILSMKU

Alright folks, Im going to bed. Im sorry if you guys dont agree me. Its my opinion that parents should not buy 16yr old kids with 4 months of driving history a 60k + car. If you dont like it, to bad. Its just my opinion.


Good night all.

Agree with you 100%. Like I said on another thread. I'm starting to remember why I don't hang out with other BMW/M3 owners.

"M3 drivers have no friends".--Jeremy Clarkson

[Gkap]

lulz rich young kids are a dime a dozen in my area.

[CptSlow]

Originally Posted by SirSpeedy

OP, please do not be a socialist. It is a parent's prerogative to purchase a M3 for their child.

As an aside, the cost of a BMW is a drop in the bucket compared to raising and educating children.

go to dictionary.com type the word "socialist" into the search box and learn something.

[Grail05]

Originally Posted by PINHEAD

shit like this is why I laugh at retards who say "you need a certain amount of maturity to drive yada yada"

some 16 year old kid can kill himself and others on a vespa or a corolla. Its not as if only a performance car can kill. Some people need to get out of the "pretend to be mature-responsible-successful group" and just come out admitting their fucking insecure jealous pieces of shits.

and again, a 56 year old can kill himself and others in a corolla or a Aventador just as easily as the 16year old can. I seriously laugh at those who think age defines maturity. Age defines nothing but how long you've been a piece of shit on this earth.

Thank you sir..

+1million... we should just stop the thread here.

[USAM3]

Don't be too harsh on the OP. He simply said something out loud that the majority of us would be thinking in our heads. If the OP took the time to really think about why it bothers him so much he would realize that it's nothing more than just jealousy plain and simple. No need to try and mask it by saying the kid isn't mature/responsible enough for such an awesome machine. Everyone has some form of jealousy in 'em.

[tibra1]

Originally Posted by highyo

OP needs to get laid and stop worrying about people who have more money than him.

Or make more money so he can stop worrying and get laid

[Templar]

Oh look, it's this thread again... :rollseyes:

Seriously. The problem isn't young kids driving nice cars, it's people like you being all wrapped up in other people's business. You worry about yourself and I'll worry about me. Are you the kid's or parent's financial advisor? No. Are you their babysitter? No. Mind your own business. Wasting time and energy complaining about something that is 100% out of your control is just illogical.

These days, way too many people are all up in everyone else's shit. It wasn't even the kid's fault. You tell me you wouldn't take a car like this at his age, go ahead. If my parents could have afforded an M3 at 16 and gave it to me I would have taken it in a heartbeat and I'm sure you all would have too.

[tibra1]

Originally Posted by SirSpeedy

OP, please do not be a socialist. It is a parent's prerogative to purchase a M3 for their child.
As an aside, the cost of a BMW is a drop in the bucket compared to raising and educating children.

Socialism - A parent's right to spoil their undeserving children with lavish gifts

[[DIM3]]

Originally Posted by WAHHKAOOM3

Seen many of these stories.
And to be honest, it's nothing special anymore.

I even see college kids driving Murcielago, Maserati, R8, etc.. Those are much more than a M3.

Don't be jealous because they got rich parents. If my kid makes me proud and had good grades, he'll get an m3 (if i can afford one for him). Makes me proud that my kid is driving a car I dream of driving as a kid.

Oh, and it's not the horsepower that kills someone, it's the stupid actions that they do. Any car can go wrong with anyone.

Hope your not being a "DICK" because your parents didn't buy you the car (instead had to wait til 35+ to own a m3).

+1000

[Nine]

Everything is relative, I'm sure that plenty of older guys look at a guy in their 20s driving an M3 and thinking, that kids had no idea the amount of money he needs to save for retirement, how much investment money he just lost by putting his cash into a car, etc etc.

That being said, I've seen college kids roll up in RARE ferraris, it's disgusting, and sad that they get the most attention, not the kid getting As or a future engineer or scientist who could change the world.

Eitherway, it's sad to say, but these super rich kids end up dead one way or another, either phyiscally or mentally.

[apecush]

my reward for good grades was an '83 thunderbird...to share! And I thought it was awesome.

(I was born in '83 to keep things in perspective)

[RoundTwo]

Hey guys,

23-year-old here who's M3 was bought new last year by his parents. I'd be glad to answer all of your questions regarding how much of a spoiled, irresponsible, wreckless-driving shit I am. Ask me anything.

[tibra1]

My question is what does a 23 yrs old get next after they have mom and dad buy them an M3..and do the parents pay for that as well?

[VaclavSV]

I bought my own car at 21 and I think in doing so I appreciate it more knowing all the hard work that went into it. I come from a family that is very well off but like others have debated various ways of parenting I felt my parents did an excellent job. My father had gotten his porsche 944 when he was in his 20s and shared his car stories with me at a young age. I always joked with him saying Im going to own a nice car like him when Im young just to one up him lol. He knew I would want a nice car but also understood the benefit of working for it yourself like he did. He had me washing the floors in the family business after school and on the weekends before I was a teenager and from then on majority of my money was put into a savings account. When I got my licence he bought me a pontiac vibe even though I had enough money myself for something I would enjoy a little more. He told me to wait and keep saving. He would let me drive his benz and audi on very rare occasions in the coming years so I could get comfortable with higher powered cars. I ended up going off to university to study chemical engineering (I had amazing grades but it was expected from my parents) and was able to get some great high paying work experience with a few large corporations. Just last year I picked up my C63 and it means the world to me. Seriously.

When I was in high school parents bought their kids everything from Porsches, BMWs, mustangs etc. and it bothered me when I knew so much more about cars and loved their cars so much more than them... only to hear them complain that its was the Carrera and not the Turbo! Well let me tell you a few of these kids were in accidents, some of them had their license suspended and others are still driving very nice cars. I dont think parents shouldnt buy their kids these cars if they have the money but that in doing so you are really spoiling the child! I thought my father did it right for the fortunate situation we are in. Its funny because all the work experience I gained I have job offers lined up where my acquaintances from high school are lucky to grab a part time job that pays $15/hr. (even though their car is worth triple their salary) As a young adult I think parents should really consider how spoiling your child will affect them in their adult hood. Its embarrassing for my friends to tell me they work for a promotions company when Im in the office/travelling/on site. Its also embarrassing when a few of them come out to the local car meets and have to admit that their parents bought their car.... people at the meets dont respect them as much. I dont care either way I just know what experiences I have been through and how I have benefited. For all of you on the forum I know I havent posted much since I am in an AMG and I know some of you hate stories like this but Im sharing it so you can see there are ways young people can appreciate a nice car all on their own.