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[lepp0012]

Originally Posted by ben@tirerack

I've put in my update for the 2014/2015 season. If you have any questions about what is available this season, please check the top of this thread: http://www.m3post.com/forums/showpos...79&postcount=1

Scroll to the bottom of the first post for the 2014/2015 edits.

If I seem to have left out any pressing questions, let me know.

Thanks for the updates Ben. I do have a specific fitment question which wasn't included in your update. I’m looking to mount winters on factory M220 wheels, ideally, Pilot Alpin PA4 in

F: 245/40R19
R: 255/40R19

Or in the Sottozero Series II

F: 235/40R19
R: 255/40R19

Any issues with wither size combo?

Trying to go a little narrower and have a little extra sidewall height for winter. Living in MN, snow tires spend 6 months a year on my car, so I want to keep the factory wheels on.

[ben@tirerack]

Originally Posted by lepp0012

Thanks for the updates Ben. I do have a specific fitment question which wasn't included in your update. I’m looking to mount winters on factory M220 wheels, ideally, Pilot Alpin PA4 in

F: 245/40R19
R: 255/40R19

Or in the Sottozero Series II

F: 235/40R19
R: 255/40R19

Any issues with wither size combo?

Trying to go a little narrower and have a little extra sidewall height for winter. Living in MN, snow tires spend 6 months a year on my car, so I want to keep the factory wheels on.

Extra height in the front will generally cause rubbing. If you want a taller tire, the right way to do it is to go down to an 18".

[BRASSCRAF]

Originally Posted by ben@tirerack

I've put in my update for the 2014/2015 season. If you have any questions about what is available this season, please check the top of this thread: http://www.m3post.com/forums/showpos...79&postcount=1

Scroll to the bottom of the first post for the 2014/2015 edits.

If I seem to have left out any pressing questions, let me know.

Looking at getting a square setup with the a7s. How do I choose a tire? I have a garage so I can change tires when conditions are forecast. Located in South Korea.

[ben@tirerack]

Originally Posted by BRASSCRAF

Looking at getting a square setup with the a7s. How do I choose a tire? I have a garage so I can change tires when conditions are forecast. Located in South Korea.

If you go to build a winter package (through the 'winter' section of the site) it should offer you a chance to choose both the tire and the wheel.

Alternatively, you can shop for tires just by entering the desired size.

Contact me by email if you want to place an order. The website struggles with international addresses.

[BRASSCRAF]

Originally Posted by ben@tirerack

If you go to build a winter package (through the 'winter' section of the site) it should offer you a chance to choose both the tire and the wheel.

Alternatively, you can shop for tires just by entering the desired size.

Contact me by email if you want to place an order. The website struggles with international addresses.

I should have stated the question differently -- which tire should I choose? There doesn't seem to be many comparisons from the different tire options that are currently available.

As far as shipping I have an APO to make things easier...

[ben@tirerack]

Originally Posted by BRASSCRAF

I should have stated the question differently -- which tire should I choose? There doesn't seem to be many comparisons from the different tire options that are currently available.

As far as shipping I have an APO to make things easier...

APO will definitely help simplify that.

If you need best ice and snow traction, go with the Blizzak WS80. If you want something sportier handling and don't need the absolute maximum traction for bad weather, then choose one of the performance winter options.

Bridgestone (LM32), Michelin (PA3/PA4), Dunlop (3D/4D), and Pirelli (Sottozero Serie II/ Sottozero 3) all have good offerings in this category. At the top of this thread I have some more detail about these, but at this point it's hard to go wrong, and a lot of it comes down to driver preference. Sometimes it comes down to what's in stock or a good price.

235/40R18 is what BMW puts on the winter package, but 245/40R18 works well too.

[B8bydesign]

Ben,

Am I going to have any issues running a 255/40/R18 Blizzak LM-60 square setup on the staggered OEM 219M's with a e92? Should I look into possibly going down to a 235/40/18 for the front or up to a 275/40/R18 in the rear?

[ben@tirerack]

Originally Posted by B8bydesign

Ben,

Am I going to have any issues running a 255/40/R18 Blizzak LM-60 square setup on the staggered OEM 219M's with a e92? Should I look into possibly going down to a 235/40/18 for the front or up to a 275/40/R18 in the rear?

I don't anticipate any serious issues. They may look just a little bit stretched on the rears. Not a lot, but as snow tires they have a narrower tread width than average for that size. 255/40R18 will fit in front. Some lowered cars or those with larger spacers may get a little bit of rub.

[zorrro]

Hi Ben,

I am about to put my 18x8 A7's back on the car for the winter. I still love them but the offset is a bit conservative. I have a set of 12.5 and 15" spacers lying around with extended bolts from when I had my OEM ZCP summer setup. Can I use some or all of them to improve the appearance on the A7s?

Thanks!

245/40R-18 Michelin Pilot Alpin PA3 XL Tires
4 18x8 Sport Edition A7 Silver Wheels

[ben@tirerack]

Originally Posted by zorrro

Hi Ben,

I am about to put my 18x8 A7's back on the car for the winter. I still love them but the offset is a bit conservative. I have a set of 12.5 and 15" spacers lying around with extended bolts from when I had my OEM ZCP summer setup. Can I use some or all of them to improve the appearance on the A7s?

Thanks!

245/40R-18 Michelin Pilot Alpin PA3 XL Tires
4 18x8 Sport Edition A7 Silver Wheels

An excellent winter setup. If the spacers/bolts were designed to work with the OEM ZCP wheels, they should work for the A7 with no issues.

[zorrro]

Originally Posted by ben@tirerack

An excellent winter setup. If the spacers/bolts were designed to work with the OEM ZCP wheels, they should work for the A7 with no issues.

Thanks for the quick reply Ben. I did some digging online to calculate how off the offset is relative to my summer setup (Fronts 265/35/18 on 9.5x18 +15 and Rears 285/35/18 on 10.5x18 +20).

I found an online offset calculator and ran some numbers. The A7s are +20 offset right?

If I read it right, the A7's are 24mm inset in the front and 32mm inset in the rear relative to my fairly aggressive (but not rubbing on stock ZCP suspension) summer setup.

So putting my 12.5mm spacer in front reduces it to 11.5 inset. In the rear, my 15mm spacer reduces it to 16mm inset. So not matching my summer setup but better than before??

[ben@tirerack]

Originally Posted by zorrro

Thanks for the quick reply Ben. I did some digging online to calculate how off the offset is relative to my summer setup (Fronts 265/35/18 on 9.5x18 +15 and Rears 285/35/18 on 10.5x18 +20).

I found an online offset calculator and ran some numbers. The A7s are +20 offset right?

If I read it right, the A7's are 24mm inset in the front and 32mm inset in the rear relative to my fairly aggressive (but not rubbing on stock ZCP suspension) summer setup.

So putting my 12.5mm spacer in front reduces it to 11.5 inset. In the rear, my 15mm spacer reduces it to 16mm inset. So not matching my summer setup but better than before??

Yes, the A7 are ET 20. So they will be slightly further to the inside than your current setup using the same spacers due to the narrower width compared with you summer wheels. So I wouldn't expect any rubbing.

[zorrro]

Thanks Ben - I will post feedback and pics once I put them on.

[adrenal1n]

Hello guys,

I'm new to this forum but not new to the BMWs. I'm happy to be a member now. I think I'll learn here many things about the M3 E92.
I currently have 08' 123d M-Sport but I'm waiting to get my 13' M3 E92 Competition Package next week.

I have a question concerning the winter package on the M3. It has H&R Race Springs (the red ones) and is currently running on 20" OZ Superleggera, Vredestein Ultrac Sessanta tires, 245/30/20 F and 295/25/20 ET25 R with spacers all round.

I'm now looking for 19" winter wheels and tires. I think I already chose the wheels - BBS CH-R. So the options are:

9x19 ET20 F and 10,5x19 ET25 R
8,5x19 ET32 F and 9,5x19 ET35 R

I searched the TireRack for winter packages and for 19" the only recommended tire size is 235/35/19 F and 255/35/19 R. Here on M3Post the alternate tire size is 255/35/19 F and 275/35/19 R. I think these sizes will not be good enough because we have lots of potholes here in Bulgaria.

What I'm thinking of is getting 245/40/19 F and 265/40/19 R. Will they fit the car considering that it has H&R Race Springs on it?

Any other suggestions are welcome, too.

[sumadaz]

Ben, it was suggested that I post my question here:

I came across a great deal on a set of VMR V710s in 18x9.5 et22 all around. I will be using these as my winter wheels for now. I have read through countless threads and I still don't know if these will rub. I would like to put the Blizzak WS80 on these wheels and they come in the following sizes:
225/40R18 92H
225/45R18 95H
225/50R18 95T
225/55R18 98H
225/60R18 100H
235/50R18 101H
245/40R18 97H
245/50R18 104H
255/35R18 90H

Anybody have any recommendations on which tires to get with the 18x9.5 et22 wheels? I would like to not have to use spacers if at all possible.

My other concern is whether or not the 9.5 et22 all around will make the front too aggressive and might look weird. Any thoughts on that?

[ben@tirerack]

Originally Posted by sumadaz

Ben, it was suggested that I post my question here:

I came across a great deal on a set of VMR V710s in 18x9.5 et22 all around. I will be using these as my winter wheels for now. I have read through countless threads and I still don't know if these will rub. I would like to put the Blizzak WS80 on these wheels and they come in the following sizes:
225/40R18 92H
225/45R18 95H
225/50R18 95T
225/55R18 98H
225/60R18 100H
235/50R18 101H
245/40R18 97H
245/50R18 104H
255/35R18 90H

Anybody have any recommendations on which tires to get with the 18x9.5 et22 wheels? I would like to not have to use spacers if at all possible.

My other concern is whether or not the 9.5 et22 all around will make the front too aggressive and might look weird. Any thoughts on that?

18x9.5 is a little bit aggressive on the front, but not crazy. I've seen 18x10 w/ similar offset and 265/35R18 or 275/35R18 run for square track setups. So while it can vary slightly from car to car, you're unlikely to have any major issue with rubbing.

Most of the sizes that you list are too small for the wheel. 245/40R18 and 255/35R18 would both fit. 255/35R18 will cover the wheel width better but is slightly shorter than standard. 245/40R18 matches the height of the stock front tire, but will probably look a little little bit stretchy on 9.5" wheel.

[ben@tirerack]

Originally Posted by adrenal1n

Hello guys,

I'm new to this forum but not new to the BMWs. I'm happy to be a member now. I think I'll learn here many things about the M3 E92.
I currently have 08' 123d M-Sport but I'm waiting to get my 13' M3 E92 Competition Package next week.

I have a question concerning the winter package on the M3. It has H&R Race Springs (the red ones) and is currently running on 20" OZ Superleggera, Vredestein Ultrac Sessanta tires, 245/30/20 F and 295/25/20 ET25 R with spacers all round.

I'm now looking for 19" winter wheels and tires. I think I already chose the wheels - BBS CH-R. So the options are:

9x19 ET20 F and 10,5x19 ET25 R
8,5x19 ET32 F and 9,5x19 ET35 R

I searched the TireRack for winter packages and for 19" the only recommended tire size is 235/35/19 F and 255/35/19 R. Here on M3Post the alternate tire size is 255/35/19 F and 275/35/19 R. I think these sizes will not be good enough because we have lots of potholes here in Bulgaria.

What I'm thinking of is getting 245/40/19 F and 265/40/19 R. Will they fit the car considering that it has H&R Race Springs on it?

Any other suggestions are welcome, too.

Welcome to the forum!

The 245/40R19 will rub in the front. These M3s tolerate wide widths in front but not tall height. Even 255/35R19 may rub a little when you are lowered. If you want to run a 40 aspect ratio, get some 18" wheels.

[zorrro]

As promised, here are pics of my A7's with my 12.5/15 spacers. Pic of my summer setup for reference.

[sumadaz]

Ben, a couple more questions for you. Will a 17x8 wheel work on an 08 e90 m3? If so, what offset and tire size should I go with for a square winter setup? Thanks again for your help!

[ben@tirerack]

Originally Posted by sumadaz

Ben, a couple more questions for you. Will a 17x8 wheel work on an 08 e90 m3? If so, what offset and tire size should I go with for a square winter setup? Thanks again for your help!

The 17" wheels generally will not clear the M3 brakes.

[sumadaz]

Edit: Emailed!

[drink schlitz]

Has anyone ran Michelin Pilot Alpin PA4 in 245/40/18 on the OEM 18s? I ask since the OEM 18s are staggered widths, 8.5" in the front and 9.5" in the rear. So I'm wondering how well a square 245/40/18 setup would work. Thanks