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Probably most S65s that have been on the dyno have been run to 8300 and then the throttle has been lifted suddenly. |
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Always thought that the S65 had a 8400RPM red line. Isn't 8300RPM the power peak?
I just checked the BMW press release, an they do quote 8400RPM red line . |
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01-24-2012, 11:51 AM | #469 |
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I think he is talking about rev to red, the lifting but not doing anything else, then stomping on it again (staying in te same gear) then lifting again. Using the engine as an ebrake.
And can someone please explain the purpose of the RO posted? I thought it would say why warranty was denied, But it just said warranty denied, safe to assume his warranty was denied and he didnt need to post proof of this Ohh and btw, your engine pic does not look like it was detonating. So I have to ask how else would a SC cause engine failure if it wasnt detonating. Last edited by Edjay; 01-24-2012 at 11:56 AM.. |
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Likewise, where is the service report showing that the warranty was voided because it was run to 190mph+ on the dyno. Or did you lie about that? Finally, the valves won't contact the pistons on this engine at 8-9k RPM. This has been stated like 5 times in this thread. |
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01-24-2012, 12:15 PM | #472 |
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Three of the cylinders have very white looking exhaust valves. If they weren't cleaned in any way I would guess there was a lean running condition in this engine! This could mean detonation and is most likely the reason why AA changed their tune shortly after your engine failure!
To Jordan, I understand your issues with a company lying to you! With that being said, AA has the terms and conditions posted on their site that state that they are not responsible for damages resulting from their parts, you have very little recourse in this matter. When you paid AA for the kit, you accepted the terms and conditions and that is legally binding! |
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White exhaust valves can be from burning small amounts of oil as well. I see that a lot with other engines that have worn valve guides. Also could be a result of the meth as well.
Companies constantly upgrade their tunes and products, the fact that AA has updated a tune is irrelevant to this case. |
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I agree. Just wanting to not add more speculation to things.
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Terms look the same back in 2007 as they do today: http://web.archive.org/web/200704032...tion/terms.php I think everyone knows, when you get into upgrading / going to forced induction on a N/A car - YOU are taking on responsibility for whatever goes wrong. You make a conscious decision, that you are giving up your warranty and may blow your motor. You should have the rainy day fund set aside to cover that. Just like tracking a car. If you are taking your car to a track and doing 140MPH+ you better be confident you can fix whatever breaks when things don't go the way you expect. In this situation, it doesn't appear to be as a result of a SC/tune (driving around at 6K then pop) but mere bad luck; having the motor go after it was modified to the extent the warranty is void is a bummer. -M |
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That's just what AA said the reason why they denied the claim. So as far as the BMW paperwork goes, it would appear that it was denied for other reasons. I think this just lends more credit to the fact that AA isn't telling the entire truth about what occurred.
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I don't have any experience with meth, but generally speaking, white exhaust valves and spark plugs point to a lean running condition which usually equals detonation! |
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I dont think AA ever said it went 198mph. But they did state it over rev. 8300 or so when they set the limit at 8100. I think Jordan has the burden of proving AA is responsible, IE instulation error or tuning error. Having a SC alone wont hold AA responsible for repairs, as they have that disclaimer.
That RO doesnt discredit AA imo. If im missing it please explain. Btw piston top and combustion chamber does not look pitted, so i think the motor was not running lean enough to cause detonation bad enough to throw a rod. |
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