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      01-21-2021, 12:54 PM   #441
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Very unlikely (although still possible). The MT seems to be becoming an M exclusive option.
I know right. Really praying they do thought. rude to be only M cars, i cant DYB a m car but want a manual
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      01-21-2021, 01:06 PM   #442
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Heh i love how they do indeed test the cars for winter but the worst part is a lot of us who lives in the northned parts of the world rarely gets to se this kind of snow landscapes it is more like the image below and a lot more salt



Bmw should maybe try these cars where the winter conditions are more real and the use of salt is so extensive that the cars ages 2-3 years faster then the average car who drives only in where it is snow like on the pictures.

For example where i live pretty much in the middle of Sweden we have very few days with snow conditions like that its mostly -2c to +4c during winters and constant rain and salt on the roads so it won't freeze during nights. So a car pretty much ages around 2-3 years faster when driven here compared to other parts of the country. I hate the use of salt on the roads....
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Very unlikely (although still possible). The MT seems to be becoming an M exclusive option.
I know right. Really praying they do thought. rude to be only M cars, i cant DYB a m car but want a manual
Kinda waters down the power dome if all variety's get it
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      01-21-2021, 01:37 PM   #444
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Friend of mine just spotted one being tested here in southern California! I'll post the pics and vids of it driving now.
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Here's the link to the video if anyone wants to see. Looks like a 230i with circle exhaust tips and wheels.
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      01-21-2021, 02:15 PM   #446
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I know right. Really praying they do thought. rude to be only M cars, i cant DYB a m car but want a manual
DYB?


I wonder what 6MT swaps will look like on these cars. Haven't seen too much regarding auto->MT swaps since the e46. It's very well documented on the earlier 3-series generations but cars made in the last 15 years or so have very limited info.

Maybe the effort required isn't worth it, or the supply of MT cars hasn't dried up to the point that swapping an auto car makes more sense than buying a manual one.

But if we're faced with a new gen that doesn't come in a manual, and presumably the last gen's 6MT will bolt up to the engine; you'd basically need a custom length driveshaft (or one from the M car), clutch pedal and shifter setup, and whatever software wizardry to keep the ECU/TCU/Chassis computer happy and you could have a bespoke 6MT G42 for what, $5k or so on top of the purchase price? Would there be a market for this if the M2 is ~$10k over the 240, who knows...maybe BMW is simply forcing the MT (I'm dropping the 6 here because we could really use a 7MT in this day and age) crowd to the M cars
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      01-21-2021, 02:16 PM   #447
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Here's the link to the video if anyone wants to see. Looks like a 230i with circle exhaust tips and wheels.
Thanks for posting. Love the overall shape of the car. It does look like a decently sized coupe.
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DYB?


I wonder what 6MT swaps will look like on these cars. Haven't seen too much regarding auto->MT swaps since the e46. It's very well documented on the earlier 3-series generations but cars made in the last 15 years or so have very limited info.

Maybe the effort required isn't worth it, or the supply of MT cars hasn't dried up to the point that swapping an auto car makes more sense than buying a manual one.

But if we're faced with a new gen that doesn't come in a manual, and presumably the last gen's 6MT will bolt up to the engine; you'd basically need a custom length driveshaft (or one from the M car), clutch pedal and shifter setup, and whatever software wizardry to keep the ECU/TCU/Chassis computer happy and you could have a bespoke 6MT G42 for what, $5k or so on top of the purchase price? Would there be a market for this if the M2 is ~$10k over the 240, who knows...maybe BMW is simply forcing the MT (I'm dropping the 6 here because we could really use a 7MT in this day and age) crowd to the M cars
A DYB is "driver your brand". I am a client advisor and we get to lease new cars for a year.

yea i think we don't see it much anymore because of all the electronics and stuff.
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      01-21-2021, 03:15 PM   #449
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Thanks for posting. Love the overall shape of the car. It does look like a decently sized coupe.
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We all know how the interior if going to look like and it's a huge upgrade for the model. As for the exterior design, I can only hope they are not going to ruin the best looking BMW model out of all F series.
I do hope the base models will be more dynamic, and by base I mean up to M235i which it's far back from the M2.
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      01-21-2021, 04:11 PM   #452
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Looking very promising. The overall exterior shape and proportions look really good. Can't wait for this, anyone know a launch date yet?
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      01-21-2021, 05:01 PM   #453
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Looking very promising. The overall exterior shape and proportions look really good. Can't wait for this, anyone know a launch date yet?
Production starts in July for the G42 based on the BMW future model thread.


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      01-21-2021, 06:05 PM   #454
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Thanks for posting. Love the overall shape of the car. It does look like a decently sized coupe.
Made the same thought; finally a "normal" sized Bmw coupé, and looks great. I hope they will not ruin everything with those horrible lights of the leaked photos.
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Made the same thought; finally a "normal" sized Bmw coupé, and looks great. I hope they will not ruin everything with those horrible lights of the leaked photos.
Yeah the lights and grill are going to be the huge question marks here. Gotta pray the 4 series designers were on vacation for this one.
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Hate to break it to everyone, but the headlights and taillights are pretty much baked in this close to SOP. Also, M cars never get different headlights or taillights, they just have revised bumpers. The G87 M2 will have the same style of lights as all G42's. Sure, they might have an adaptive option, but that's just the inner components, the rest of the lighting assembly will have the same size and shape.
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Hate to break it to everyone, but the headlights and taillights are pretty much baked in this close to SOP. Also, M cars never get different headlights or taillights, they just have revised bumpers. The G87 M2 will have the same style of lights as all G42's. Sure, they might have an adaptive option, but that's just the inner components, the rest of the lighting assembly will have the same size and shape.
Don't think any of this is news.

That being said, the lighting doesn't look bad and most importantly the grills are normal. Throw in some aggressive bumpers and a wide rear end and we could have a winner.
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      01-21-2021, 09:25 PM   #458
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Overall silhouette of the vehicle looks good. It's going to come down to the details on the panels - BMW is a hit/miss in regards to this.
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Front & rear overhang look to have grown, like to know if wheelbase has changed.
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That being said, the lighting doesn't look bad and most importantly the grills are normal. Throw in some aggressive bumpers and a wide rear end and we could have a winner.
The headlight is borderline acceptable and the taillight is hideous. In addition, the body is tall for anything coupe.

The G42 does not resemble much of the M3 coupe of the past, but in fact inherits the most if not all of the characters design wise of the E87/F20 hatchback, its ancestor.

It's hopeless if you're looking for the old 3 series/M3 coupe successor kind of car.
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The headlight is borderline acceptable and the taillight is hideous. In addition, the body is tall for anything coupe.

The G42 does not resemble much of the M3 coupe of the past, but in fact inherits the most if not all of the characters design wise of the E87/F20 hatchback, its ancestor.

It's hopeless if you're looking for the old 3 series/M3 coupe successor kind of car.
How does it resemble a hatchback?

Looks pretty good to me..
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      01-22-2021, 11:59 AM   #462
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Front & rear overhang look to have grown, like to know if wheelbase has changed.
Same question I have...makes the wheel base look shorter...which makes me wonder about how it will handle in the corners
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