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If you think a GT-R is among the list of super cars, well then by your definition a BOSS Mustang and a Z06 should be spoken of in the same sentence with Pagani and Mclaren, do you realize how crazy that is??? Again, this is not ripping just a matter of perspective, not semantics. Performance is one aspect vs. intangibles like a zonda's exhaust, or it's carbon fiber door panel. You are taking this again personally, without applying a rational arguement. |
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The Corvette Z06 is classified as a super car as it is in the same class as the 911 Turbo, Audi R8, GT-R etc. Go look up any super car list and the Vette is in there. Last edited by Z K; 11-07-2011 at 03:52 PM.. |
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Frankly if a Boss 302 can hang with a gtr, 458, or Gallardo it would be a supercar but it can't. You offered up one piece of evidence. How would it do around the 'ring or any number of other courses. It would lose badly to the Nissan and other supercars. Christ, it would also get pasted in a straight line. You obviously don't take my opinion too seriously but you're willing to say practically every respected car reviewer considers a GTR a supercar are wrong? I offered up three guys that know cars a hell of a lot better than anyone on this forum and every one of the said the Nissan was a supercar. But a suppose you know better than Tiff Nedell, Jason Plato or Jay Leno. And as far as rational arguments are considered I have offered plenty. All you GTR supercar deniers can say is its not exotic, which isn't a prerequisite, no that there are "intangibles"(ie you can't quantify it).
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http://www.fastestlaps.com/tracks/laguna_seca.html I probably couldn't find many more as they don't typically even bother comparing the two cars. The Boss is not even in the same ballpark...apples and oranges. It's the overall performance capability and engineering of the car. A Boss and M3 are not that far apart performance wise. Also, I never said it's the fastest car out there. Last edited by erio; 11-07-2011 at 07:31 PM.. |
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Re: Supercar, fine, it's supercar, but the only thing you've done is lowered the bar for 'super car' and created another tier of vehicles, another group that the GT-R is not in, a group above and beyond the reach of the GT-R.
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A 2012 ZL1 Camaro holds a faster ring time than a Lamborghini Murcielago LP670-4SV, does this mean that the Camaro and the Lambo should be mentioned in the same league, in performance MAYBE, in class, or level ...No way, they are designed for very different buyers, purposes, and criteria. That is my point, I'm trying to bring the GT-R back down to earth but the owners in this thread seem to be very reluctant to either: A. bring the GT-R down to earth, or B. throw it's rivals like the z06 at or above the GT-R. It amazes me to see how easily a Ferrari 458 is brought into the equation, long before a z06 is. The GT-R might have similar performance numbers to a 458, but these cars are miles apart in design, price, purpose and customer base. |
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I'm really curious to understand why, you of all people would NOT buy a GT-R??? The proof is in the pudding, right here, for the money why would/did you choose a c63amg coupe with P31 package over a GT-R.... |
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Idiots! Red is better than blue, red sox, no Yankees, cold vs. hot...it's a super, no duper, no wannabe, no exotic... Thx for the entertainment though lol:
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And as for that idiot posting an ugly picture of an old Nissan as "justification" for your badge bigotry, PUH-LEEZE! I can dredge up a few ugly old BMW pictures as well. |
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11-08-2011, 10:54 AM | #435 |
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so your saying the majority of people think the gt-r is a phenomenal car but not a super car. case closed. thanks
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Super car comparison: http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...r/viewall.html Motor Trend names GT-R best Super Car under 100k http://www.6speedonline.com/forums/n...nder-100k.html Top Gear Super Car of the year 2007: GT-R http://www.**************.com/pit-ge...rd-2007-a.html USA Today: Nissan Supercar gets more power http://content.usatoday.com/communit...t-r-supercar/1 Jalopnik: Supercar teardown GT-R http://jalopnik.com/5422557/supercar...wn-nissan-gt+r Wall Street Journal: Super car at not so super price http://online.wsj.com/video/news-hub...E33E55A38.html Really guys, if the whole world calls the GT-R a super car, why not the BMW forum? |
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alms said i was part of the majority that thinks the gt-r is a phenomenal car just not a super car. i just agreed with him. it performs like one and better than a lot but there is more than performance. thats why so many m3 owners are enamored with it even though it isnt that great of a straight line performer or that its too heavy. arguing that something is true unfortunatly doesnt make it so. its a great car regardless if it is defined as a super car. i personally do not and you do.
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the same people that have driven and reviewed more cars than you probably will? Ok...if you say so. Other people also believe that Kobe Bryant is better than Micheal Jordan even tho numbers say an entirely different thing. The easter bunny is real people.... |
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