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04-29-2013, 03:58 PM | #24 |
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Even though i put in 37,000 miles, KBB had a default 68k mileage on the m3 on the final page .... FAIl . YOu are correct. 08' m3 KBB pricing is ~$39k... I feel like an idiot Last edited by unim3; 04-29-2013 at 04:04 PM.. |
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Well, it depends on your area too. If you are in NorCal as your profile says, the M3s are more rare up here and so command a premium over some of the prices in other areas (SoCal).
Most of the time the price of the car depends on the condition. Dealers will mark up the price in most cases and you can find some good deals from private owners. I paid $50k for my 2008 E90 M3 but that was a year ago (1.5 years of new car warranty left) in the San Francisco Bay Area. The prices are now about $40k in this market. My car is exactly as the white car you described at Carmax, but mine is black. And the interior is absolutely mint when I purchased it - it looks and feels brand new. No wear on the leather bolsters, the car was garaged, meticulously cleaned and it was well taken care of. This was no family car. That's what sold me... the other M3s I saw at dealers had interiors in worse condition by far.
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10-02-2011, 10:11 PM FS: 2008 BMW E92 M3 Coupe 6MT AW/Silver ONLY 6300 miles ASKING $47,000 NORCAL 09-29-2011 FS: 2008 E92 M3 (AW/Fox Red) DCT 39,300 miles - Miami, FL ($44k) 06-16-2011 FS 08 M3 MR 6MT 33K miles ($39k) 06-12-2011 2008 E90 M3 46k miles 6 MT Loaded CLEAN ($39,5k) - had warranty at the time till 1/22/13 10-28-2011, 08:08 AM 2008 e90 m3 jb/fr 32k miles ($36k) Back in 2011 ... we are now in 2013 out of warranty for the 08's and the prices are generally the same.. haven't budged. I lived in norcal for 5 years and visited socal.. They're both brimming w/ luxury cars esp LA.. I saw more luxury used car dealers than gas stations in L.A |
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For your reference:
I have an E90 6MT with 37,500 miles and have been thinking about putting mine up for sale. It has Premium Package, Technology Package, Enhanced Premium Sound, Heated Seats, HD radio, & Satellite Radio. KBB lists my car for $38,000 I fitted the car with ZCP wheels and it has 1 year of CPO coverage left. I would be happy with $38,500... but would list the car at $40,000 because people expect to get money off. I bought the car two years ago.. and back then they were going for around $50k with 20k miles or so. (that is pricing on cars CPO certified then.) |
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People can ask whatever they want for their cars. If you think it's too much then make an offer you thinkis fair. It's not uncommon for ere to be a disconnect between a buyer and seller.
Also, I have seen numerous m3s listed on here in mid-low 30 range so maybe you aren't looking hard enough? |
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Waiting for the f80 to come out might lead to further shock. The new 3 series on which the f80 M3-M4 is based on is a step down in quality from the e90....Generation. The V8's might hold their value for many years to come. Especially when the first year problems kick in with the new models.
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If you were talking about a honda civic which a large part of the average driver community owns .. Yeah, as your average person doesn't take care much their stuff, I would see your point.. But it's an m3 .. You already establish you are an enthusiast at this point and have the wherewithal to care for a vehicle. I don't see quality varying much more differently outside of this forum. There are some that are beat and others that are well taken care of and there's a KBB rating that coincides w/ such quality variances. That being said, in general, enthusiast or not, it seems people dont know what leather care is.. As almost all modern BMWs are leather, it would help if there was a sticky or something about Leather care.. I mean jesus .. I was starting to think the leather was just cheap in BMWs or something.. A lot of the interiors I have seen are beat to sh*t. Worn Grey/blue interiors are among the worst. I'd rather cloth at that point. wears better than what I have seen out of alot of the bmw interiors. Last edited by unim3; 04-29-2013 at 04:57 PM.. |
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FWIW a car from a private party can have two distinct advantages. Service history and driver history. An owner that cares about their car can provide service records so you know that oil changes were more frequent than the 15k interval by BMW (which is utterly retarded IMO). Also, you can get a sense of the person and know if the car was abused based on personality. When I was selling my E46M3 I met a guy who wanted to buy it but he was a big douche and I wasn't going to let me car go to a guy like that.
Yeah, CarMax has their warranty but you can always get a 3rd party warranty. Personally I would opt for an 09 if only for the updated iDrive. Also if you can get an 09 it might still be under BMW warranty and you can ask the original owner to get the BMW warranty since it stays with the car, not the owner. Once the title changes hands it's no longer available. |
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Further, companies like carmax have inspected the vehicle (private haven't). Further, companies like carmax can provide you w/ financing.. Last i quoted, i was given 2.85% .. Given market conditions, I'd take this over paying cash and make 15%+ in markets. personality? Driver history? I generally assume, as a seller, that you are going to tell me what it takes to get a sale. If you did anything retarded to the car, I know my way around cars and can tell.. that's all that matters to me .. the visual and detailed inspection and records (both of which are possible) outside of a private sell. I fully expect a private seller to lie his/her arse off .. Like in one case when i went to look at a private sale m3 and the guy told me he didn't beat on it.. tires were worn to shit on the edges (heavy cornering) .. and there were impact patterns all over the rotors from the abs kicking in .. I am sure he was an 'enthusiast' . Or the many cases when forum members forget there is a search function and I find them on all sorts of threads talking about launches, burnouts, and other h00n like activities yet they mention they babied their car in the classifieds. Carmax warranties transfer as well and are a hellavuh lot cheaper than BMW's. They are also more extensive and cover more years and mileage.I can also cash out of it when I want and get a pro-rated refund. If I don't want to take it to carmax, i can take it to bmw and there's a $50 deductible. Sorry, I fail to see how private sale commands a premium. It typically is the opposite. |
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Who is this KBB character? What makes him an expert on retail used prices, "Official appraisers" are there to help the dealer steal on trade.
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One word.....Value. For some people, whether they can afford it or not, the bang for the buck is what counts, and that is a highly individual decision. I, for instance, would never pay more than about $300-400 for a watch...ever. Just not worth it to me even though I could go out and buy something much pricier without breaking a sweat.
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Just because KBB says something is worth "X", it aint worth sh*t if there are no cars selling for "X". Its all what the market indicates, not what some website says it is. You're not overpaying if all of the cars that are trading or all the cars listed are around the same price.
My suggestion is to have a price in mind that you are willing to pay and then when you find the right car in your price range pull the trigger and don't look back. If you wait forever or set unrealistic expectations you'll never end up doing anything. |
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I think you have to be patient and find the right car for you. I found other cars that looked great but I did not want black, I did not want the DCT, and I did not want a modified car. Almost everything else was open for consideration. There were more expensive, more perfect vehicles I found but for what I want from this car it wasn't worth it. Similarily, there were substantially cheaper vehicles that werre pretty beat up. I also found cars at damn near the same price and same condition but no option for as good an extended warranty. Carmax's MaxCare program is outstanding with as good, if not better, coverage than many certified pre-owned options (as well as third party, reputable firms like Fidelity) at way cheaper prices. Good luck in your search. |
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I don't understand why people argue about this. It's a free market, and it's all about supply and demand. If a seller wants to list a car at an unreasonable price, that's his/her right and he/she will have to lower the price to sell (or find a sucker who'll pay the asking price).
A buyer complaining that the market is unreasonably pricing the cars in question accomplishes nothing IMHO. If you don't like the price(s), you can move on to something else that you will be happy to pay for. If CarMax has the right cars at the right prices, then by all means, give them your business. I don't understand what's there to vent or complain about. |
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