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      06-09-2008, 08:12 PM   #23
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iTunes activation is no more. FUCKING NEO NAZI'S WHO UNLOCKED IT AND RUINED IT FOR THE REST OF US!
no more activation through itunes?! where did you hear this?
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no more activation through itunes?! where did you hear this?
http://www.macrumors.com/2008/06/09/...one-unlocking/

All in store now. iTunes activation was so easy. Plug iPhone in, put in SS #, select if you were new or existing and wanted to transfer phone number, and select the plan you wanted. It was easy as that. But no, now I will have to wait in a slow moving line while I wait for others to get theirs activated in store. Fuck all of you unlockers.
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Im going to call BS on that in store only rumor.
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By now even your grandmother knows what Apple announced today. But what about the fine print? What about the $199 and $299 pricing? Well, as some of you might have guessed, those prices are only with contracts with a carrier. We just got a hold of an internal AT&T email to store managers and it details almost every single detail of Apple’s iPhone 3G. Here’s a list of the most important/interesting points we found, followed by the entire email:

iPhone 3G will be activated at point of sale when the device is purchased in store. Return period has been changed from 14 days to 30 days
$199 and $299 pricing is for new activations or qualified upgrades with a 2-year agreement
2G iPhone data rate plans will remain available for 2G device suntil further notice
The new iPhone 3G data plan is $30/month and includes unlimited data and visual voicemail
There is not a no commitment price. This means you can’t just walk in and bang $500 on your credit card and walk out. If you are an existing iPhone customer in good standing, you will be able to extend your contract for two years when the iPhone 3G launches and get the ill-na-na $199/$299 price point. Doesn’t matter when you bought an iPhone either.
AT&T and Apple stores “unbrick” the iPhone 3G at time of purchase, but for some reason if that doesn’t happen, you’ll be required to use iTunes at home. Pre-paid and Pick Your Plan will not be allowed on iPhone 3G
Device purchase limit remains at (3) per customer in AT&T stores.
2G iPhones to remain as demo models in AT&T stores “until further notice”.
AT&T stores will get rate brochures, 22 x 28 posters, and window banners
Launch day will mirror last year’s launch. This includes extended store hours, crowd controls, etc. Security will be provided to stores requesting armed police or guards.
AT&T is working with Apple to roll out GPS-enabled applications.
There you have, folks! Almost everything you wanted to know, and a lot of stuff you didn’t. Full email is after the break!

UPDATE: There’s a second email below, too!


AT&T and Apple today announced that the iPhone 3G will be available in the U.S on July 11. iPhone 3G combines three products into one small, lightweight device: a revolutionary mobile phone, a widescreen iPod, and it puts the Internet in your pocket with the best e-mail, web browsing, search and maps applications ever on a mobile phone.

The new version of the iPhone harnesses the power of AT&T’s broad and powerful 3G mobile broadband network, which offers 3G mobile phones download speeds of up to 1.4 Mbps.

Key Device Features:

Operates on Wi-Fi, EDGE, and 3G networks
New enterprise e-mail capability with support for Microsoft Exchange ActiveSync
New iPhone software development kit (SDK) to support new innovative applications
Note: 2G iPhone customers will be able to download the iPhone 2.0 software from iTunes which enables new features such as access to corporate e-mail via Microsoft ActiveSync.

New Activation Process and BRE:
The iPhone 3G will be activated at point of sale when the device is purchased, in store. The BRE period will change from 14 days to 30 days and will require the device to be returned to place of purchase before service is cancelled.

Pricing and Plans
Device Pricing:
$199 8GB and $299 16GB for new activations and qualified upgrades with 2-year agreement.

Data Plans and Pricing:
The iPhone 3G will be activated on existing AT&T voice rate plans, but new data plans have been created for the 3G device.

All iPhone 3G customers are required to have one of the new data plans and qualifying voice plan.
Customers intending to use the iPhone 3G for access to corporate e-mail, business applications, or access to corporate intranet are required to activate with Enterprise Data Plan for iPhone.
The 2G data rate plans will remain available for 2G devices until further notice.
IRU service discounts for both voice and data pans will apply to iPhone 3G, but not 2G iPhone.
CRU service discounts for voice and data will apply to both 2G and 3G, when on a qualifying data plan.
IRUs will not get a discount on device purchase for 2G or iPhone 3Gs.
Data Pricing will be as follows:
Consumer Data Plan (must be added to qualified voice plan):
$30 - Unlimited Data (E-mail/Web), includes Visual Voicemail

Enterprise Data Plan (must be added to qualified voice plan):
$45 – Unlimited Data with personal and corporate e-mail, web, includes Visual Voicemail

Upgrade Eligibility and Qualified Upgrade Pricing
Upgrade eligibility will be determined based on standard upgrade eligibility rules. Customers must be upgrade eligible to receive the qualified upgrade pricing. However, not all customers will be qualified upgrades. AT&T has not determined the price of the 3G device for non-qualified upgrades.

All customers will be required to sign a 2-year agreement. There will not be a “no commitment” price for the iPhone 3G.
Note: When the 3G device launches, all active postpaid customers in good standing with a 2G iPhone will be eligible to receive the qualified upgrade pricing for a 3G device regardless of service tenure. (Customers that would not otherwise be eligible due to tenure will be made eligible at launch).

Activation Process
The new 3G device will be activated in store in both AT&T and Apple stores. Customers must accept AT&T and Apple Ts & Cs, sign a 2-year agreement, and select the data plan for the iPhone 3G before leaving the store. The current iTunes activation process will no longer be required for iPhone 3Gs, however a short tether process to unbrick the 3G device will be performed in all AT&T stores (tether cords will be provided). Apple stores will also perform this tether process, however in the event that a customer’s device is not tethered in the Apple store, their device will be inoperable until they get home and tether through iTunes. Prepaid and Pick Your Plan will not be allowed on the 3G device.


The SSK has been modified to allow customers interested in the iPhone 3G to enter their information, select rate plans and data plans, and print a document that will allow COR reps to quickly access the customer’s information in OPUS and save time for data entry in the activation process.

Note: In the interim, 2G iPhones will continue to be activated via iTunes - BAU. This is also true for existing AT&T customers who receive a 2G device as a gift, hand-me-down, etc. and wish to activate the device. Existing AT&T customers who switch to the 2G iPhone must tether through the iTunes process to begin using the device.

Compensation
Because the 3G device will be activated in store, compensation for the 3G device will be BAU. COR reps will receive compensation for upgrades and new activations with a 2-year agreement.

Purchase Limit
The device purchase limit will remain three (3) per customer for iPhone 3G in AT&T stores.

Allocations
If allocations are required at launch, supply chain will allocate based on January-April sales rates applied on a store-by-store basis.

Direct Fulfillment
The DF tool will be available at launch in COR for iPhone 3Gs. Customers will be required to pay for the device when the order is placed and the phone will be shipped to the store in the customer’s name.

Existing Stock of 2G Devices
We will continue to sell 2G devices until stock is depleted.

Return Policy
2G Devices
Customers who recently purchased a 2G iPhone may want to return their device once they hear about the 3G model and price point, but the new device will not be available immediately. Since the announcement and launch will be about 30 days apart, we could lose some customers who are within their BRE period and want to return their device before their 14 days expires and wait for the new 3G device. We must acknowledge and address their desire to get the best device for them.

Here’s how AT&T will handle 2G iPhone returns:

If a customer purchased before 5/27, we will follow BAU processes – no device returns. However, all postpaid 2G iPhone customers in good standing are upgrade eligible, so these customers will qualify to upgrade to a 3G iPhone when it is available.
If a customer purchased on or after 5/27 (within the 14-day BRE period before the product announcement on 6/9), we will let them exchange their 2G iPhone for an iPhone 3G before August 1. This means that after we launch the 3G model they can return their 2G iPhone, pay the 10% restocking fee, and purchase a new iPhone 3G before August 1.
Note: This modified return policy applies only to customers who purchase from AT&T stores.

3G Devices
The return policy for 3G is changing from 14 days to 30 days for both Apple and AT&T stores.

To cancel service within the first 30 days, the customer must return their equipment to the place of purchase (no exceptions).
If the customer cancels service after 30 days, they will be charged the ETF. The customer is not required to return the device to cancel after 30 days.
Special Notes Regarding 2G Devices

After the iPhone 3G launches, activations of 2G iPhones for new AT&T customers can be performed in COR stores or in the existing iTunes tether process. COR reps will receive compensation for activations of new AT&T customers done in store.
2G upgrades will continue to be activated via the existing iTunes tether process.
Existing 2G data plans will remain available for 2G devices until further notice.
Note: 2G iPhones are out of stock in the DCs, and the Direct Fulfillment tool for 2G is turned off. 2G iPhones have been removed from the “myRewards” incentive catalog.

Merchandising/Marketing

Current 2G iPhones should remain on device fixtures in store. Do not remove 2G demo devices until further notice.
3G demos will be pulled from stock when they arrive following BAU process for display devices.
Video loop content will be pushed to stores when it is available.
New docks and retrofit kits will be provided for existing iPhone fixtures.
The following merchandising elements will be in stores for launch:

Rate brochure and display rate card
22 x 28 poster
Window banner
Duratrans - will be available for markets to order
Coming Soon: Posters and banners are TBD
Training

Device training, including features and functionality, will be available via My CSP by 6/13.
OPUS training will begin no later than 6/20 and will be delivered via the Learning Edge.
Launch preparedness training, including last minute details, will be conducted the week of launch (if needed) via RSM or Centra sessions.
Communications/My CSP
All iPhone-related communications, inclusive of training announcements, will be posted to My CSP. Login and access are via the “Everything iPhone 3G” ad space. Or search on either keyword “iZone” or keyword “iPhone 3G” to locate.

Launch Plans
Support logistics for launch day will mirror last year’s iPhone launch:

Letters will be sent to all landlords under VP/GM signature for advance notice of store hours, crowds expected, possible parking issues, etc.
Security will be provided for locations requesting armed police or unarmed, uniformed guards.
Manager checklists will be provided to support RSMs to set expectations and help them be prepared to complete all required actions.
Documents will be posted on iZone to let RSMs know when to expect delivery of launch support materials.
Job descriptions for key launch day functions will be provided for: Back Office Manager/Inventory Runner, Crowd Manager, Greeter, Product Demonstrator, and Security Support.

***Confidential AT&T Information. For Internal Distribution Only.***
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Im going to call BS on that in store only rumor.
Rumor? That came from an AT&T exec and has been in emails to AT&T retailers, etc.
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Rumor? That came from an AT&T exec and has been in emails to AT&T retailers, etc.
then in that case
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im confused, so once you buy the phone, is activation as simple as inserting the sim card at the store?
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Well fuck att than haha.
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im confused, so once you buy the phone, is activation as simple as inserting the sim card at the store?
That's what I am wondering. For existing 1G iPhone users, could we buy it and take it home to put in our old already activated iPhone SIM card. Then once you plug it into iTunes, it sends the data to Apple/AT&T that it is in the 3G iPhone and changes the billing info accordingly?
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there must be some new procedure if activation can only take place in-store. i just want to buy my phone, go home and use it
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That's what I am wondering. For existing 1G iPhone users, could we buy it and take it home to put in our old already activated iPhone SIM card. Then once you plug it into iTunes, it sends the data to Apple/AT&T that it is in the 3G iPhone and changes the billing info accordingly?
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The new 3G device will be activated in store in both AT&T and Apple stores. Customers must accept AT&T and Apple Ts & Cs, sign a 2-year agreement, and select the data plan for the iPhone 3G before leaving the store. The current iTunes activation process will no longer be required for iPhone 3Gs, however a short tether process to unbrick the 3G device will be performed in all AT&T stores (tether cords will be provided). Apple stores will also perform this tether process, however in the event that a customer’s device is not tethered in the Apple store, their device will be inoperable until they get home and tether through iTunes. Prepaid and Pick Your Plan will not be allowed on the 3G device.
As far as i understand, you can still take it home and go through the activation process or activate it in the store!
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As far as i understand, you can still take it home and go through the activation process or activate it in the store!
Well how is it bricked? Is it bricked via SIM card or in the iPhone itself? That is for 1G iPhones only for iTunes activations. 3G iPhones require in store.
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Already got my pre-order in
Where can you pre-order it? I've already got my camping gear ready for the night before.
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As far as i understand, you can still take it home and go through the activation process or activate it in the store!
The text reads that you can only activate it via the COR stores.
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I have a blackberry...not an Iphone...and my contract is not up


...With AT&T still allow me to upgrade my current account and phone number to a 3g Iphone?
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I have a blackberry...not an Iphone...and my contract is not up


...With AT&T still allow me to upgrade my current account and phone number to a 3g Iphone?
Yes if your in "good standing"
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Gimme Gimme!!! My 2.5G is so yesterday I need to blow another $199 and add another 2 year ball & chain to my financial life.

Anyone know if they are going to sell it unlocked this time???? Would help me when I travel.
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how do you preoder and how much you want for yours?
Im able to pre order mine through work... I'll make you a smokin deal on my current one...16gb... I wont have the new one though till the 2nd week of July.
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