We are so fortunate to drive these cars - and a question about black wheels

Ggeezer · 10-17-2017, 07:14 AM

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Originally Posted by HerbNRacer

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Originally Posted by JsL

I thought BMW ZCPs and AG359 weigh the same. Where did you get the info BMW ZCPs weight less?

I recommend getting black AG359s and use the savings for tires, test pipes or supercharger.

Correct me if I wrong but I think the OEM ZCP's are forged and the AG's are cast.

And +1 for saving your $ for other mods, I went this route

OEM ZCPs are cast

PACarGuy · 10-17-2017, 02:11 PM

Shop around. I just had a set of 220M's powder coated in gloss black for $600 here in Philly area (also included tire mounting and balancing).

I used these guys:
http://www.awrswheelrepair.com/locator
and they did a great job. They've done several sets of wheels for my cars over the years.

wildwestm3 · 10-17-2017, 02:22 PM

I had mine done for $500 out the door in Cincinnati. The company is Killer Koatings, you can find them on-line. Ask for Mike, he's a good guy. That was breaking them down, chemically dip, sand blast, prime, powder coat, build back up (TPS and stuff), mount/balance, install torque, done. And they look awesome!

You are right about going with more rubber though. I have 275's on the back and 255's up front. I think I might be able to do a 285, but that is about it. The 275's are straight up flush with the outside of the wheel (zero stretch). I'd be a bit concerned about losing performance with a 285 as the width is wider than the wheel (i.e. opposite of stretch).

HerbNRacer · 10-17-2017, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Ggeezer

OEM ZCPs are cast

Thank you for correcting me, I hate giving bad information.

I thought for sure the stocks were forged...

thkfast · 10-17-2017, 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by HerbNRacer

Black ZCP reps in Avant Garde's were $1k for all 4.

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As for contrasting black bits, the previous owner of my M3 went nuts. CF kidneys, CF fender gills, CF mirror caps, CF tall rear spoiler, CF roundels on the wheels and steering wheel. Paired with the CF roof, it looks nice.

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kyippee · 10-19-2017, 01:21 AM

ZCP look good but are heavy and (well-made) cast.

How about these bad boys in black? They're just under $2k a set. Have a set myself in the other color, very happy so far and I'm a fan boy. Running 265/35/18 and 285/35/18 on mine. 18x9.5 and 18x10.5, no spacers, no hub rings, uses stock length bolts.

cmo_93 · 10-19-2017, 04:28 AM

Agree with fortunate to drive part.

timothy2001 · 10-19-2017, 05:58 AM

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Originally Posted by cgoldie187

I currently have ZCP wheels - would be better to have them powder coated? I just heard its almost a grand for powder coating, and new wheels can be had for like $1500.

Not sure.

Get another price quote. I had my ZCP wheels powder coated for $400 and they came out looking great. The shop had recently opened and I suspect it was a promo price but still, $1000 seems awfully high.

Iyzmi · 10-19-2017, 09:58 AM

I prefer gunmetal over black and the pics in post 12 illustrate why. You simply can't see any of the details with black wheels unless you are looking very closely. Gunmetal gives you the dark contrast you want without hiding the design. Too bad AG doesn't make their 359s in gunmetal, otherwise I'd already have a set. I'm debating between picking up a set of used OEM 359s and having them powdercoated or going with Forgestar F14s that come in the color I want and can support wider tires.

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PACarGuy Captain 700 Rep 987 Posts Drives: 2012 E92 M3 DCT ZCP Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: Philly burbs, PA iTrader: (1) Garage List 2012 E92 M3 [8.33] 2019 G01 X3 (wife's) [0.00]	Shop around. I just had a set of 220M's powder coated in gloss black for $600 here in Philly area (also included tire mounting and balancing). I used these guys: http://www.awrswheelrepair.com/locator and they did a great job. They've done several sets of wheels for my cars over the years. __________________ 2012 E92 M3 \| ZCP \| DCT \| Space Grey Metallic \| Black Novillo \| BE/ARP \| MPE V2 \| AA green filter \|BMW CF Rear Spoiler, RW Carbon Diffuser, CF Front Splitters \| DTEC 160W Angel Eyes
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wildwestm3 Captain 220 Rep 692 Posts Drives: 2008 M3 Convertible Join Date: May 2014 Location: Springboro OH iTrader: (2)	I had mine done for $500 out the door in Cincinnati. The company is Killer Koatings, you can find them on-line. Ask for Mike, he's a good guy. That was breaking them down, chemically dip, sand blast, prime, powder coat, build back up (TPS and stuff), mount/balance, install torque, done. And they look awesome! You are right about going with more rubber though. I have 275's on the back and 255's up front. I think I might be able to do a 285, but that is about it. The 275's are straight up flush with the outside of the wheel (zero stretch). I'd be a bit concerned about losing performance with a 285 as the width is wider than the wheel (i.e. opposite of stretch). __________________ Thanks, Dave [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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kyippee Lieutenant Colonel 1076 Rep 1,617 Posts Drives: E92 M3, Supra MK5, F44 235GC Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: SF Bay Area iTrader: (0)	ZCP look good but are heavy and (well-made) cast. How about these bad boys in black? They're just under $2k a set. Have a set myself in the other color, very happy so far and I'm a fan boy. Running 265/35/18 and 285/35/18 on mine. 18x9.5 and 18x10.5, no spacers, no hub rings, uses stock length bolts.
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cmo_93 Lieutenant 201 Rep 486 Posts Drives: 981 Cayman GTS Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: GA iTrader: (0)	Agree with fortunate to drive part.
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Iyzmi Lieutenant Colonel 804 Rep 1,575 Posts Drives: E92 M3 6MT ESS625 Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Midwest iTrader: (1)	I prefer gunmetal over black and the pics in post 12 illustrate why. You simply can't see any of the details with black wheels unless you are looking very closely. Gunmetal gives you the dark contrast you want without hiding the design. Too bad AG doesn't make their 359s in gunmetal, otherwise I'd already have a set. I'm debating between picking up a set of used OEM 359s and having them powdercoated or going with Forgestar F14s that come in the color I want and can support wider tires. __________________
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