DCT E92 M3 Violent Jerking When Trying to Put in Drive

leo95se · 08-12-2017, 07:23 AM

can you revert to stock tune to test?

ThePoonTang · 08-12-2017, 02:41 PM

Im having the same issue as well, 3 weeks on GTS tune but I dont think thats the culprit as many have ruled that out. I got a Transmission temp warning though so a number of techs think its a faulty Temp Sensor.

Hopefully you'll have more input on this.

bb_00 · 08-15-2017, 03:11 PM

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Helmsman · 08-16-2017, 04:50 AM

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Originally Posted by bb_00

I'm interested but also curious about this product. Doesn't ELM327 scanner and a phone app do the same thing?

https://www.amazon.ca/ELM327-Bluetoo.../dp/B00E3VDL80

Yes it does, using Carly myself. One thing may be that at least Carly doesn't provide momentary data but update with whatever frequency. For what its worth you can also see voltage before and after the monitor device and alternator current. The latter I found useful now and then.

SalM · 08-17-2017, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by leo95se

can you revert to stock tune to test?

Stock DCT Tune or Stock ECU Tune ?

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Originally Posted by ThePoonTang

Im having the same issue as well, 3 weeks on GTS tune but I dont think thats the culprit as many have ruled that out. I got a Transmission temp warning though so a number of techs think its a faulty Temp Sensor.

Hopefully you'll have more input on this.

I dont think it could be the GTS flash cause my buddy did it same night as me and his car never did this its been like 2-3 months now.

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Originally Posted by DrFerry

You need to scan the DCT ECU and DME for codes. Try the Carly AP with their bluetooth, OBDII, wi-fi connector. There are so many different things that might be causing the issue that without codes being read the problem may be difficult to diagnose. Throttle position sensor, DCT ECU, Alternator Output voltage, mismatched software between engine and tranny all come to mind. If you can't or don't want to read the codes yourself then find a good local independent shop with a code reader.

I have scanned it already with the Schwaben tool I purchased off ECS Tuning. All the codes are on the original post on the first page.

SalM · 08-19-2017, 01:36 PM

Bump ! Anyone else have ideas ?

BPMSport · 08-19-2017, 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by SalM

Bump ! Anyone else have ideas ?

Flash back to stock.

SalM · 08-20-2017, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike Benvo

Flash back to stock.

Flash the GTS back to stock or ECU Tune ?

SalM · 08-20-2017, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by DrFerry

I am no expert at all with DME/ECU software, but perhaps there could be a mismatch between the DME Operating System Version with either the DCT Tune flash file or the ECU Tune flash files or both. All the codes on the first page mention engine control unit errors. I am not sure what the latest DME Software version is for the E90 series M3s. Anybody? 240E?? What version of the DME are you running?

I'm going to flash back to stock and reflash it

BPMSport · 08-20-2017, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by SalM

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Originally Posted by Mike Benvo

Flash back to stock.

Flash the GTS back to stock or ECU Tune ?

Both. If it stops happening then you'll know it was one of them.

SalM · 08-20-2017, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike Benvo

Both. If it stops happening then you'll know it was one of them.

thanks man, I'm gonna give it a shot when I have some time.

jazzsingh · 11-12-2017, 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by SalM

thanks man, I'm gonna give it a shot when I have some time.

Any updates on the jerking?

SalM · 11-13-2017, 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by jazzsingh

Any updates on the jerking?

Yes sorry been so busy. So i took the gts flash off and the car has been mint for quite some time now.

xnfsx · 07-15-2019, 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by SalM

Yes sorry been so busy. So i took the gts flash off and the car has been mint for quite some time now.

Hey SalM, Were you able to find a solution?

xnfsx · 07-15-2019, 08:04 AM

Just FYI to other folks, I had Alex flash the GTS tune, but I dont have an engine tune (did not install the alpine one yet). Based on this thread, it may be that the stock DME version and the GTS tune is not a compatible version? Can someone confirm?

For3 · 07-15-2019, 12:28 PM

Are you experiencing the same issues with the Alpine GTS tune as the OP. Afraid I don't have any advice but just curious as I am considering that GTS tune.

Adriano917 · 07-15-2019, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by For3

Are you experiencing the same issues with the Alpine GTS tune as the OP. Afraid I don't have any advice but just curious as I am considering that GTS tune.

I wanted to do the DCT GTS tune too, but after reading I’m not sure now.

xnfsx · 07-15-2019, 06:21 PM

Yes, my car was flawless prior to flashing to the GTS tune. I think it's the cars DME software is not updated and thus not compatible with the GTS flash. But I need someone more experienced to confirm this.

I could not go into drive, reverse but neutral was ok. it was a very violent back and forth with the engine stalling out. I thought it was a battery issue, Rallye BMW told me to change the battery because they really dont think the GTS flash should've impacted anything....I asked SalM and he stated that his battery was new and it still happened to him. He never flashed back to GTS after.

For3 · 07-15-2019, 11:03 PM

I’d contact Alex and perhaps he can see what sort of errors you are getting and go from there. Let us know how it goes.

SalM · 07-16-2019, 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by For3

Are you experiencing the same issues with the Alpine GTS tune as the OP. Afraid I don't have any advice but just curious as I am considering that GTS tune.

Gts tune is great i have it on my NA M3 worked flawless. Just software issue thats all.

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Originally Posted by Adriano917

I wanted to do the DCT GTS tune too, but after reading I’m not sure now.

I highly recommend it . The issue were having is our ecu and tcu are on different software versions so its not communicating well. GTS flash is great and I highly recommend it.

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Originally Posted by xnfsx

Yes, my car was flawless prior to flashing to the GTS tune. I think it's the cars DME software is not updated and thus not compatible with the GTS flash. But I need someone more experienced to confirm this.

I could not go into drive, reverse but neutral was ok. it was a very violent back and forth with the engine stalling out. I thought it was a battery issue, Rallye BMW told me to change the battery because they really dont think the GTS flash should've impacted anything....I asked SalM and he stated that his battery was new and it still happened to him. He never flashed back to GTS after.

Yes same symptoms. It definitely software versions being different between ecu an tcu.

xnfsx · 07-22-2019, 01:20 PM

Alex took a look, and my DME is 240. Seems like it's not a version issue. I got a bunch of codes back:

279D
2B13
5A44

Wally1552 · 07-22-2019, 03:23 PM

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08-12-2017, 07:23 AM	#23
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ThePoonTang Private First Class 21 Rep 118 Posts Drives: 2013 Frozen White E92 M3 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: So Cal iTrader: (0)	Im having the same issue as well, 3 weeks on GTS tune but I dont think thats the culprit as many have ruled that out. I got a Transmission temp warning though so a number of techs think its a faulty Temp Sensor. Hopefully you'll have more input on this.
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xnfsx Captain 85 Rep 929 Posts Drives: E90 M3 2011.75 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: NY iTrader: (4)	Just FYI to other folks, I had Alex flash the GTS tune, but I dont have an engine tune (did not install the alpine one yet). Based on this thread, it may be that the stock DME version and the GTS tune is not a compatible version? Can someone confirm?
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For3 Private First Class 85 Rep 157 Posts Drives: E90 M3 Join Date: Dec 2016 Location: Dallas iTrader: (1)	Are you experiencing the same issues with the Alpine GTS tune as the OP. Afraid I don't have any advice but just curious as I am considering that GTS tune.
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xnfsx Captain 85 Rep 929 Posts Drives: E90 M3 2011.75 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: NY iTrader: (4)	Yes, my car was flawless prior to flashing to the GTS tune. I think it's the cars DME software is not updated and thus not compatible with the GTS flash. But I need someone more experienced to confirm this. I could not go into drive, reverse but neutral was ok. it was a very violent back and forth with the engine stalling out. I thought it was a battery issue, Rallye BMW told me to change the battery because they really dont think the GTS flash should've impacted anything....I asked SalM and he stated that his battery was new and it still happened to him. He never flashed back to GTS after.
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xnfsx Captain 85 Rep 929 Posts Drives: E90 M3 2011.75 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: NY iTrader: (4)	Alex took a look, and my DME is 240. Seems like it's not a version issue. I got a bunch of codes back: 279D 2B13 5A44
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