"It's Incredibly Confusing To Put A $127,000 BMW M6 In Park"

[Transfer]

lmao at some of the comments here. Once you understand that it goes into park when the car is turned off, it's stupid simple and a much better design than a PRNDL. I love that the DCT stick is completely NOT standard.

[Majin Buu]

Originally Posted by Lute

Need i say it?

With an MT you don't have these problems..oh wait can you even get an M6 with MT?

MT FTW!

[GIdriver]

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[MysticBlue]

Originally Posted by Lute

Need i say it?

With an MT you don't have these problems..oh wait can you even get an M6 with MT?

What problem? The majority of the complaints are coming from people who don't own one, which should tell you something. Not a whole lot of complaining coming from the thousands of people who actually own one and live with it every day.

[MysticBlue]

Originally Posted by Lute

Well my post was meant to be humorous in nature, but since you took a turn to serious town...let me try to remember when an MT car had a problem going into park...uhh

Never...lol

Again, you've made my point. MT has never had a problem going into park, 'cause it doesn't, and you don't need it to. DCT has never had a problem going into park 'cause it doesn't, and you don't need it to. In other words, it's not a problem for the DCT for the same reason it's not a problem for MT. The only people who think it's a problem are those who don't have one, and therefor, don't understand.
btw, thinking that it's humorous to point out that in your opinion, MT is better than DCT, MT FTW, etc. or any variation thereof... Sorry. It stopped being clever about 4 years and a few hundred thousand posts ago.

[VMcV3y]

When I first drove my E93 with DCT, the guy at BMW Welt did not mention the "P" function.

I drove out of the Welt and went to the first petrol station. I came to rest by the fuel pumps and looked for the "P" on the gear shift. Didn't see one.

I asked my passenger to reach in the back seat and grab the manual.

And I turned off the engine.

What do you know? The "P" indicator magically appears on the instrumentation display.

Now, as a person that drives this car almost every day since March 2012 (30,000 miles) I can absolutely state that this is so frakking simple that it's like someone (who doesn't own a refrigerator) bitchin' that they don't know why they have to press a lever to get ice to fall out of the door when they could just open the door and grab a handful.

I'll describe the complicated process to place a DCT vehicle into "Park"

1. Turn off engine.

For the naysayers, here is a seven-second YouTube video:

- V

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[Majin Buu]

Originally Posted by MysticBlue

Again, you've made my point. MT has never had a problem going into park, 'cause it doesn't, and you don't need it to. DCT has never had a problem going into park 'cause it doesn't, and you don't need it to. In other words, it's not a problem for the DCT for the same reason it's not a problem for MT. The only people who think it's a problem are those who don't have one, and therefor, don't understand.
btw, thinking that it's humorous to point out that in your opinion, MT is better than DCT, MT FTW, etc. or any variation thereof... Sorry. It stopped being clever about 4 years and a few hundred thousand posts ago.

Dct isnt a manual. Its an automatic.

[MysticBlue]

Originally Posted by Lute

Opinions vary

You are entitled to your opinion. I never said you weren't. I'm just pointing out that in my opinion, there's not much humor there anymore.

[MysticBlue]

Originally Posted by Majin Buu

Dct isnt a manual. Its an automatic.

You already said that. It was pointless the first time you said it and it still is. The semantics of how you want to label the tranny has nothing to do with the subject matter. If you can't see that by now, it's pretty obvious an intelligent discussion on said subject isn't going to happen.

[NAV8TT]

What an idiot, that's why 127k cars are not for anyone, put it in N and turn it off. Use the fucking users manual if you don't know you fucking deluded potato head.

[Majin Buu]

Originally Posted by MysticBlue

You already said that. It was pointless the first time you said it and it still is. The semantics of how you want to label the tranny has nothing to do with the subject matter. If you can't see that by now, it's pretty obvious an intelligent discussion on said subject isn't going to happen.

so why doesn't it have a normal shifter with a normal park function like any normal automatic? And you're the one who's hooked on semantics since you keep mentioning manual this and manual that as if it's of any relevance how manual transmissions work. Don't delude yourself. You're driving an automatic, not a manual. It may be a bit better than the automatic in a buick lesabre or dodge minivan, but it's just as much an automatic as they are. And since bmw already gave the dct a park pin mechanism like any automatic, why complicate matters and not have a traditional shifter to control the park mechanism?

[Majin Buu]

Originally Posted by Lute

I think it's actual more relevant now than 400,000 posts ago, because now the car is ending its life cycle, going out of warranty and issues and problems will beign to appear

I commented on how many DCT problem threads there are vs MT threads lately, might be pure coincidence but...

SMG**cooough**

Lol, yeah. I went with the 6MT partially because I plan on keeping it past warranty, and I didn't wanna deal with potential reliability headaches with those DCT and all the sophisticated technowizardry crap that operates them.

[US///M3]

If the guy thinks putting an M6 in park is incredibly confusing, He should try the launch control.

[W///]

Originally Posted by Lute

Need i say it?

With an MT you don't have these problems..oh wait can you even get an M6 with MT?

[Koldun]

Originally Posted by Prowess Symphony

You could apply that logic to anything and say people used horses for thousands of years so why make a car? Or why make sat radio since people used fm radio for decades? Things evolve and change and get easier. People spent decades moving a level into park and now we don't have to. One less thing to remember or worry about so I can get on with my business. If you really need to get it into park with the car running you can put it into neutral and pull the ebrake I would assume.

That logic only applies if the invention improves on the old.

[BIGW0RM]

Originally Posted by Majin Buu

so why doesn't it have a normal shifter with a normal park function like any normal automatic? And you're the one who's hooked on semantics since you keep mentioning manual this and manual that as if it's of any relevance how manual transmissions work. Don't delude yourself. You're driving an automatic, not a manual. It may be a bit better than the automatic in a buick lesabre or dodge minivan, but it's just as much an automatic as they are. And since bmw already gave the dct a park pin mechanism like any automatic, why complicate matters and not have a traditional shifter to control the park mechanism?

You're still here? I look forward to you pissing the wrong person off and getting banned. I for one am sick of seeing you bicker in every single thread I come across. Go back to Dragonball Z already!

[rabman5]

Originally Posted by Majin Buu

Lol, yeah. I went with the 6MT partially because I plan on keeping it past warranty, and I didn't wanna deal with potential reliability headaches with those DCT and all the sophisticated technowizardry crap that operates them.

Seriously, back in the 80s people said the same thing about power window and door locks. It's called progress.

[Majin Buu]

Originally Posted by ILSMKU

You're still here? I look forward to you pissing the wrong person off and getting banned. I for one am sick of seeing you bicker in every single thread I come across. Go back to Dragonball Z already!

At least my name actually has a meaning. What does your stupid name mean? What the heck is an ilsmku? Does it actually stand for something? Or did you just type random letters on a keyboard to come up with your username? Oh and do you mind finding someone else to stalk instead? There are 7 billion people on this planet. You've wasted enough time stalking me. At this rate you will grow old and die before you get the chance to go through the entire human population and stalk them.

Originally Posted by rabman5

Seriously, back in the 80s people said the same thing about power window and door locks. It's called progress.

Well, power window and power door locks won't cost tens of thousands of dollars to fix. DCT gearboxes are still new technology. There are probably still a few bugs to fix. Sure, 5 or 10 years in the future they may become bulletproof. but for now, I prefer not to be the guinea pig that discovers those bugs on my on tab out of warranty.

[Curt2000]

[luis_m3]

First world problems... Really folks? Arguing about P features of a DCT???

[CDM3DCT]

Yeah... Darn DCTs and P, while we're on this topic I also want to complain about how hard it is to find the cup holder. I mean there should be an LED indicating the location or atleast a button you press on your dash so it automatically comes out. I have to stretch over and then press this black dingy piece of black plastic (risking injury to my finger) just to magically get a cup holder. Come on BMW, I didn't pay $70K for a car to have to manually access a 60s fashioned cup holder...

[Hyperjack]

Originally Posted by luis_m3

First world problems... Really folks? Arguing about P features of a DCT???

this is a forum dedicated to discussing a luxury sports coupe...the whole thing is a first world problem.

find another meme.

please.