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05-27-2020, 12:39 PM | #23 | |
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It also depends what mode you have the car in as the F8x only uses anti-lag techniques in sport and sport+. So if he is cruising down the highway in comfort he's going to have a vastly different experience than you punching it in sport/sport+. |
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Exactly! I have my M1 set up like that with m mode dsc. Then M2 has no dsc for track use
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05-27-2020, 03:16 PM | #27 |
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Totally agree with SYT's assessment. The E9xM represents a bit of an offramp from the power and acceleration arms race, an arms race I blame on the GTR and the C63 that launched alongside the E9xM. E9xM is the last of a different kind of small fast four-place car. The C63 was Fat Man - a 450whp/tq car with just a couple mods and not even turbocharged...then came Little Boy GTR showing its heels to almost everything on sale at any price, for $80k, with AWD, DCT, and turbos.
Then proliferation started, with hot-vee turbo V8's in ALL THE THINGS and now we are talking about AWD on a the next M3 just to keep it from being a merry go round in the rain. AMG god bless em haven't gone to AWD yet with the C63, but you can bet it's coming, if they even do another one. You don't have to have your own nuclear weapons in your garage though. You can still choose de-escalation and live a peaceful, fulfilling life of enjoyment without the needless cost and stress of mutually assured destruction in track and stoplight lethality, or you can just say "YOLO SEND ME ALL THE HORSEPOWERS" and enjoy the chase. The F80 is still a great car and you'll have fun. Personally, if I were considering an F80, I'd wate for the G80. The S58 is bananapants.
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05-27-2020, 07:52 PM | #28 | |
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I owned an F80 for 2 years. White/Sakhir orange interior, 19" wheels, the car looked amazing and I tried very hard to like it. I defended it and justified it for too long but eventually I sold it for my current E90 IB ZCP as the F80 never grew on me. I just lacks depth and a certain connection to it. I had 305 ad08r tires, 500 wheel HP, titanium exhaust (comp pack) and no matter what I did the car always felt numb. It was a waste of time, the car was inherently flawed in my opinion as I don't care about magazine racing, I want a car that feels good and has soul. Objectively the F80 has a way better collection of go fast parts on it, there is no doubt about that but none of it worked together well. I've never driven an F80 CS so I don't want to go too far in my statement, but the other versions of the F80 I've driven all lacked the same thing. |
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05-28-2020, 06:34 AM | #29 |
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I feel that F80 lacks the depth of character that E9x generation M3 had. This, I believe is a problem that's no just limited to current M3/4 but with most modern turbocharged cars these days..
Add turbo and induction/exhaust sound becomes blah! Adding turbo adds power which then needs wider tires & stiffer suspension which feels fine on the track but makes the car stuff & numb on the road... combined with electric power steering! It's a result of stringent emission laws!! German manufacturers are more affected because they don't per se make "economy" cars, unlike American autos - Chevy has Cruze & other fuel efficient 4 bangers which help achieve required "fleet emission" targets and allows GM to make/sell big NA V8s (i.e Corvette). In my opinion, going from analogue to electric, cars will progressively become more numb... |
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05-28-2020, 07:44 AM | #30 | |
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A few short stints with other vehicles. I still have never owned and been as happy with a performance car as I was with my 08 E90 6MT. Im searching to replace it with a like vehicle and hoping I have not built it up too much in my head. Unfortunately it seems like every car that goes up for sale these days has a story or is DCT. Once I get something well have to put together a mountain run. |
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