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I cannot understand the M5 being included in the top 3 over the E92. By what criteria is the M5 better? (Perhaps an Evo editor owns an E39?) |
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09-14-2007, 11:41 AM | #24 |
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damn thats sick to see the busted out the M1.
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It is becoming more and more clear to me that the E92 M3 is perhaps the true successor to the old 6-series. It seems to have much more of an all round GT character (refinement, power, size, versatility) than its ancestors, but objectively still offers fantastic performance Since this is going to be my main car (i.e. +2hrs/day av. speed 15 mph) I'm really not too unhappy about this either... |
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09-14-2007, 01:40 PM | #26 |
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mmhmm, it doesn't really bug me since I will have to live with this car day in and day out. I like being able to bust a move when the opportunity arrives but still feel comfortable spending all the rest of my time in it.
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09-14-2007, 03:06 PM | #27 |
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What the hell is that all about?? Horrible times and speed avg.
You don't need an M3 for that type of business. You could speed things up with a tricycle.
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09-14-2007, 03:31 PM | #28 | |
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Maybe he drives really fast 4 an hour, then lets it go at idle in 1st up his very, very long driveway. |
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09-14-2007, 03:38 PM | #29 | |
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To explain this final decision taken by EVO,it will be necessary all the ability of a journalist, much more than the ability of a real pilot. I would be really curious to know the true opinion of the BMW's test drivers (that are pilots for profession...) that developed the new M and the old M5 on the Ring. I am sure that they would smile just a little reading this final position and decision taken by EVO...don't you think? One question...would you prefer and would you personally consider better a car that is 22-23 sec slower (M5 E39)than another that for whatever reason is faster for more than 20 seconds(new M3)??I never eard anthing similar before. What I mean is that which criteria are important for EVO?for example the CSL without the special tires that used,would run at the Ring in which time? probably 8 minutes and not 7,50. So how the new M3 that is so close to this time (we are still waiting for the official time) can be considered so negative? which cars are driving the journalists of EVO? how this could influence the final choise?Is it possible that one day, in another test, (next year??) and with a journalist that will own the new M3, something different will be told to us? I know these are provocations. And this is why we spend our time into a Forum. Last edited by savage.ulm1; 09-14-2007 at 04:01 PM.. |
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09-14-2007, 03:49 PM | #30 | |
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If the E90 M3 was out already it probably would have taken the E39's place- right Steved? |
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09-14-2007, 03:58 PM | #31 | |
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would be accepted from all of us, don't you think?? |
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09-14-2007, 04:01 PM | #32 |
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Given that the CSL came in so far ahead of the E46 M3 CS, I can't help but think that an E92 with some mods is going to be a killer car.
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09-14-2007, 04:17 PM | #34 |
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I think the main criteria, as mentioned by Steve on another post, was BMW's "Motorsports" principles, so I can't imagine the 4-door thing playing role.
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09-14-2007, 04:24 PM | #35 |
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But then why would the E39 be the "best" M5? The E39 is slower overall than the E60 M5, so overall performance cannot be the standard. If "purity" is the standard, then the first M5 (don't recall the E code) should be the "best" M5. It is the lightest, and it has a more highly strung, competition-derived motor.
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E39 may also be the M5 with the best compromise between purity and power... Best regards, south |
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The E30 M3 deserves 1st place. There will never be another like it.
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It will be interesting to see how this is explained/justified in the article. We all have our biases, so as I said I would not be surprised if one of the authors or contributors owns an M5 (maybe even the very car used for the article).
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09-14-2007, 05:10 PM | #41 |
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09-14-2007, 05:22 PM | #42 |
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09-14-2007, 05:41 PM | #43 | |
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As for the CSL's time, weren't those tyres the ones fitted as standard, the Cup tyres?
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09-14-2007, 05:45 PM | #44 |
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No, I don't. But Steve did mention that "M" was going to be the main factor for comparison. I don't know if that changed though during or after the review.
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