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06-03-2011, 04:57 PM | #23 |
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Who said anything about 6.2L?
From article: "GM has approved the use of a very European-style V-8 that will be only slightly larger than 3 liters in displacement."
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Yes, it's a great car for the money, but it's almost all plastic, pushrod engine, rental car interior, and even an ALL leaf-springs suspension. And yes, I was thinking of trading the M3 for one, due to their simplicity, but couldn't get something decent for it, so will keep it. I love some of the technology on the M3, but am tired of throwing money away on cars because it doesn't make economical sense to keep them after warranty. With a Vette, I could fix almost anything, and it'd be immensely cheaper as well. And a lot less likely to fail in the first place. Different perspectives. Have a good one gang. |
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06-03-2011, 05:19 PM | #26 |
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Oh no, the leaf spring argument. Both the pushrod engine and leaf springs on a Corvette, while based on old technology is in my opinion, very advanced and well engineered. I concede the fuel efficiency is mainly due to weight, aerodynamics and tall final gears, but it still doesn't change the fact that the LSx series of engines in modern Corvettes are nothing to scoff at. In any performance metric, even the lowly C6 will outperform an M3, and it just gets worse from there.
Would I drive one? No. I personally like the refinement and creature comforts of the M3.
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This is not the first time corvette headed down this path. The 1990-95 ZR-1 had a 4 CAM all aluminum engine designed by lotus and built by mercury marine. It was pretty much state of the art at the time. Really a beautiful engine. But looking at the current value of the 90-95 ZR-1s, it really never caught on like the older iron block engines.
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06-03-2011, 09:00 PM | #30 |
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Im not too good with engines, but if its such a small v8, roughly 3 liters, putting out over 400hp, isnt that almost a bad thing? Wouldn't that mean the engine will be problematic and pretty much maxed out from all the pressure?
Like I said I dont know anything really about engines other than hp and torque but would be curious to know
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06-03-2011, 09:09 PM | #31 |
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was replying to 'e1000's' post
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+1 That engine is really quite remarkable considering how much power it makes, the weight, and how efficient it is.
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06-03-2011, 10:20 PM | #35 |
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Yep, no problem with the drivetrain. The interior, on the other hand, is a different story.
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With BMW moving away from high rev small V8's i'm having a hard time seeing GM doing this. And while the Vette has interior issues, the platform and engine are simply awesome. and they keep getting better.
I've never driven a vette and frankly if I drove a Z06 I would most likely defect due the sheer performance and bang for buck. Having said that the M3 offers a much more refined auto and after I S/C my M3 then it's bliss. Perhaps GM will go to a smaller say 5.0L engine with forced induction. They do need to address the demographic. Hard core performance guys know how awesome it is and respect for that. Buy you also have guys driving for status or "middle age crisis" Not sure what that means. They want to attract our demographic, which I look forward to seeing. |
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The transverse leaf spring is used because it offers a decrease in unsprung weight and works well in its own right.
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No way 10.000 RPM. Todays most responsive production car is he Lexus LF-A, with its 560 PS 4,8l V10 and redline at 9.500 RPM, but remember it is NA. The highest revving FI production car is the McLaren MP4-12C with its 600 PS 3,8l V8 Twin-Turbo and redline at 8.500 RPM, but its cost the price of a Ferrari 458 Italia. The next highest revving turbo cars are going to be the new Toyota Supra and if BMW wants it, the next M3, but do not expect more than 8.500 RPM, 8.000 RPM would be plenty enough compared to standard 7.000 RPM. We'll see where will the new Porsche 911 Turbo 991 have redline.
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I've driven and ridden in so many vettes and they all just suck for quality in the interior and the structure with rattles. Vettes shake like a crack whore holding the winning lotto ticket.
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The engine is bulletproof. Some things don't necessary need changing for the sake of change. Call that arcaic if you wish. If GM does change the engine it will be for gas mileage ... nothing more.
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+1, but most likely at that price, ppls are gonna go Porsche
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