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And about the new cayman. It looks great and I'm sure is easy and fun to drive. If I didn't own my GTS and was shopping for a car, it would definitely on my short list. The biggest downside would be depreciation. The cayman depreciates at a greater rate than the 911. Last edited by hakaida442; 02-24-2013 at 05:55 AM.. |
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02-24-2013, 05:56 AM | #25 |
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Does anyone know how easy or hard it is to increase horsepower in a porsche from 325hp to 400hp? What are we talking about here? Adding another $15-20k? 325hp is just a tad short of where I would like it to be. But as I said earlier, I would love to have one and would have bought one if it were out just a couple months ago.
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02-24-2013, 11:56 AM | #26 |
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I keep reading the rave reviews of the new Cayman S as well. But when I build one on their website, I have a tough time justifying paying well over $70k for a Coxster.
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Even if not leasing, that in part reflects PFS' estimation of depreciation rates. They also want lease turn-ins that they can CPO and sell with a warranty the same as a new one. |
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Who are these Caymen and are they coming for us ???
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02-25-2013, 01:53 PM | #33 | |
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02-25-2013, 04:42 PM | #36 |
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I would totally go for the 981 Cayman (the new one).. but that roofline in the back..
It looks too Chrysler Crossfire-ish to me. Still think the 987 Cayman R looks better. Just take off the stickers and you have a sleeper. |
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02-25-2013, 05:00 PM | #38 |
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My wife drives a 987 Cayman S and I drive the M3. I have not yet driven the 981 Cayman but I do have some opinions based on the previous version.... I think the Cayman is a fantastic car. The handling is sublime and it is plenty quick. I had test driven many Cayman's in the past and always felt like they were out of breath. Porsche made significant improvements when they went to the FSI engine in 2009. I would not consider a Cayman with the earlier engine. I have not modified the Cayman to suite my tastes so it's a little difficult to compare my modified M3 to the stock Cayman but...
There are a few things that make the M3 more appealing for me. 1 - Engine note (especially with Akrapovic Exhaust), 2 - More room in front and rear (I drive with the front seats all the way back in the Cayman and I'm only 5'11"), 3 - DCT transmission is much smoother than PDK 4 - Better electronic interface (say what you want about idrive; it's still much better than the Cayman's glorified radio). Cayman Advantages: 1 - I love the full leather available with Porsche (dash, doors, center console, etc.) - I would not buy a Cayman without it 2 - Neutral handling 3 - Sports car styling The 981 improves upon all of the advantages of the 987 plus it offers interior electronics that better compete with the M3 and styling that is much more aggressive / masculine.
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This is going to be a tough choice for me.
I currently have an E90 M3, and I want to replace it at the end of the year. I'm currently looking at either a used Cayman R, a new 981 Cayman S, or a used 997.2 GT3. It will be my second car, and will just be driven for fun and for the track. The obvious choice is the GT3, but that is really stretching the budget; I'd like to keep it under $85-90k, so at the moment the 997.2 GT3 is out of budget. Any suggestions or hints? I love the idea of a Cayman, but I fear that after being spoiled by the S65 V8, I will find the decreased straight line performance a disappointment. I'd also like something raw and uncompromised - I don't need much in the way of practicality, aside from the occasional errand on a weekend. It sounds like the new Cayman S is a bit softer and has lost its edge. |
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02-27-2013, 05:09 AM | #41 | |
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And for 90k a GTS is in that price range too. Not sure if you would like it, but I love mine. I like going to the track, but it is primarily a street car so I like how comfortable it can be when not in sport mode and with normal PASM on. The 7.2 GT3 is just a little too hardcore for me for street driving. I'm sure that the 991 GT3 will be much more comfortable. It appears that the 991 GT3 will be pdk-s only and there will be an all new engine in it. I'm sure that it will be really fast and much more stable with the longer wheelbase and wider stance, but if I was upgrading to a GT3, I'd wait for the 2nd gen model. Buying a car with an all new engine for that price point is a big risk imho. Last edited by hakaida442; 02-27-2013 at 05:14 AM.. |
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Two different machines, in my opinion. The Cayman S is geared towards the track with it's mid-engine layout and stiff(er) suspension and better brakes ,while the M3 is geared towards backroads and highway cruising. The M3 can be taken to the track, but you'll have to change a couple of things such as the brakes so you don't get fade.
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