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03-01-2018, 09:56 AM | #23 |
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wouldn't a 255/35 be shorter than the oem 245/40?
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03-01-2018, 10:37 AM | #24 |
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OEM is 245/35/19. I'm on 220M wheels right now.
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See Apex's post above. Great info there! FWIW I run staggered on the street and track. I will likely be going with square on the track for the reason of rotation and cost savings. Unlimited funds I would stick with staggered. It can be made faster IMO (with the right car setup). I would run staggered on a dual purpose car with only a few track days per year, and a supercharger.
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What's the drawback of running a 295 on a 10" wheel on a SC daily driver?
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03-01-2018, 11:23 AM | #27 | |
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It all comes down to how you use your car, and your expectations for steering response / feedback, grip etc. 275/30-19 tires will mount up beautifully to the 19x10" wheel, however the 295/30-19 would be best supported by a 19x10.5" or 19x11" wheel. The major benefit of running a square wheel configuration is the ability to rotate wheels and tires on all four corners of the car. If you stagger the tires, you have negated that ability. Furthermore, the shape of the sidewalls will look fairly different from front to rear when running a setup like this. This may not be a major factor for some, but it is worth mentioning. Edit: It looks like Slicer has already provided similar info. Thanks Slicer! Quote:
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A wider wheel will provide better support for the tire and deliver better performance. Primarily a benefit when cornering. A wider wheel will also increase the usable tread width. Lastly, aesthetically it looks bad.
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I don't see a 295 on a 10" being heresy, especially in the rear of the car
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OP you have an opportunity to pick the best wheel spec for your planned tire. Why not do so? It would be different if you were stuck with 10" for a race class or there were no other wider options available. Not the case, there are so many great options out there.
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I've seen a lot of wheel pics posted over the years and honestly don't think anything looks as good as ZCP. F14 SDC does come close though. I can get square AG M359s powder coated in gloss gunmetal shipped to my door for $1,400 brand new. OEM ZCPs would need to be sourced used to keep cost down, and I would still need to add $500 to get them powder coated locally. The only complaint I've seen about the AG wheels is the finish quality/durability being inferior to OEM, which is irrelevant to me since mine would be powder coated anyway. I also would not be able to run 275/295 with a set of OEM staggered ZCP, so I'm back to my "not enough meat" dilemma. Basically I see no reason to get OEM wheels over AG in my case .
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It can be done but I still ask why? A wider wheel will deliver better performance with that tire size - and there are tons of options out there. Maybe I'm too anal but if I'm going to take the time to modify something on the car, and have the opportunity to do so in a way that optimizes that modification, then I'm going to do so.
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$10k+ on a supercharger and penny pinching on wheels does not make sense to me. There are a lot higher quality options out there. Plus you could buy four 10" ZCP wheels just as easily as four 10" AG. Be sure the powder coated doesn't bake at too high of a temperature as that can weaken the wheel.
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I love the look of ZCP wheels too. They are one of my favorite OE wheels of all time. I have strongly considered grabbing a 10" square set over the years. Not being critical about that. However I wouldn't install 295's on them and I wouldn't buy replicas. Sorry but the replica version is not going to be equal quality to OE. Finish, strength, resale, etc are all reduced. I also wouldn't powder coat, I would paint to avoid the potential for weakening. I'm trying to help, I hope it doesn't seem like I'm looking to start an argument here. You can take or leave my opinion.
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I wouldn't consider the AG wheels to be "literally the exact same thing" as ZCP wheels. I bet that the OEM ZCP wheels are higher quality and higher strength. Some say they like AG wheels, but if you'd like to get wheels on the relatively cheaper side of the spectrum, you could consider APEX racing's mesh wheels (rotary forged barrel, cast face - ~$1,200-$1600 a set), Bimmerworld's forged wheels (~$2k a set), or Titan 7's forged wheels. (also ~$2k a set) A simple set of OEM ZCP wheels with 255/275 PSS staggered may do just fine for you - it's just street, and they stick quite decently. |
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Finish will be up to the quality of the powder coat job and will be a factor regardless of OEM vs AG. AG 359s are a very common wheel and virtually no one has complained about strength. Resale is of no concern, and given the lower initial cost it would actually likely be better than buying brand new ZCPs if I ended up selling at some point. I would powder coat rather than paint for durability. I know plenty of people with powder coated wheels and not a single one has had issues with weakened wheels so I'm willing to take my chances on the minimal risk.
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I have considered all sorts of wheels, but keep coming back to ZCP for the aesthetics. I know Apex makes great wheels but in terms of looks, they don't come close IMO.
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Really? A quick google search shows many results, such as http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1112693
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There's more, just google "AG wheels cracked". Honestly I'm just sharing some cautionary warning because I've been through crap wheels. I consider them penny smart, pound foolish. Had rep wheels on my 325ci and once on my E46 M3 many years ago when I thought it was smart to save a couple bucks as well. It was not smart.
I understand you're really just interested in looks, so I'll step out of this thread- I simply suggest to think longer term, of the hassle and problems you may run into with higher probability. |
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Also, another thing to keep in mind is the perspective that I'm coming from. I'm a complete wheel geek. Not sure why but I am. Further, the first thing I do to any car is attempt to improve the handling. That's my favorite aspect of this platform - tied with the exhaust note and high revving nature of the S65. The last thing I would do to the car is add a supercharger. That being said, I'm obsessed with the details of handling - hence my unwillingness to use a wheel that is not the ideal spec (or close to it) for the tires I choose. There are always compromises needed but in this case you don't need to compromise IMO. Best of luck and I hope whatever you choose works perfectly for your needs!
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I have no doubt I prefer wider wheels. Hell, I have two sets of square 10.5 wheels I use with 275/35 tires |
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