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01-21-2012, 09:16 AM | #376 |
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Here's my high level summary:
-Engine blew over a year ago, Jordan resolved the issue with AA then (buy back on kit; owner covers motor). No evidence released at that time suggesting root cause of failure. Now he is not satisfied with the deal and wants more money. -He contacted them and threatened to take the issue to the boards. -He has now STATED that the SC caused his motor to fail. His evidence is that the valves didn't contact the pistons (largely irrelevant on this motor) and that he "feels" that they could have been too aggressive with their tune. No proof, "feels". He also wants to know how many motors have failed with the AA kit. -Oh he also admits to returning his car to stock and attempting to conceal the fact that he had a SC installed on the car and get the dealer to warranty the motor. But his defense is that someone, who he will not name at AA, told him to do this. -AA has produced evidence from the shadow area of the ECU showing that Jordan over-reved the engine at a mileage after the car had the SC installed. Jordan denies ever doing this. ...there are other details I'm omitting, but that is the gist of it. So in other words, Jordan has produced zilch to support his argument. There are laws for a reason - you can't just go around saying whatever the hell you want about people. Likewise, truth is an absolute defense. Unfortunately, Jordan has already admitted to being dishonest with the dealer, so there is really no way to trust anything he says. All the more reason why we actually need real facts. If I were AA personally, I would be speaking to an attorney/police about libel and blackmail. |
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01-21-2012, 09:35 AM | #377 |
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Same here. Plus after his engine failure he installed a "used" AA SC on a customer's car, a SC he feels is poorly engineered, has insufficient R&D, and is badly tuned - just doesn't make sense even if he told his customer "what might happen"
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01-21-2012, 09:45 AM | #378 |
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I am sure he stands behind his work and if the engine fails he will cover the cost of the new engine being he installed it - I mean he should have the same expectations for his customers.
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01-21-2012, 10:41 AM | #379 |
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This has been one of the best treads in a while and after spending all this time reading it, I think we all, expect maybe OP and/or AA, want to know what really happened to his motor, what actually cause the failure.
Can't wait for Mike to get the data from OP
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01-21-2012, 10:55 AM | #380 | |
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01-21-2012, 11:09 AM | #381 |
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Maybe over time,some crankshafts are wearin out unevenly makin them out of balance on some engines in the same area causing the same rod to fail. A crankshaft out of balance is more likely to cause an engine failure at high rpm.
BMW has replaced a lot of crankshafts already... |
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01-21-2012, 11:13 AM | #382 | |
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A ESS dct trapped 130 and clocked a 6.8 60-130 in the worst of the worst conditions in the US and you say its the slowest ? A ESS 535 kit trailed AA's best kit behind by 1mph and its the slowest Dude i cant wait until you get your car at least you will have some sort of ground to speak on considering you don't own a blown M3 yet you down talk one of the top kits Lets all be adults about this |
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01-21-2012, 11:26 AM | #383 | |
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01-21-2012, 11:53 AM | #384 | |
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The point to the read is to perform an independent read of the freeze-frame data stored in the OP's DME to determine if the data matches the freeze-frame data AA have already posted in this thread. |
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01-21-2012, 12:33 PM | #385 | |
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Reading some of the comments that guy had on the wheels and tire threads I wonder if he can even drive let alone tune a car. |
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01-21-2012, 02:33 PM | #387 |
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Damn....here comes shome more drama in the LBC. I often wonder, would people talk the same if we were out at a bar. Probably not, unless they want a upside the head. I come on to these forums to learn about possible mods for my car, feedback, etc., not to rehash school yard drama. C'mon folks, chil the f out.
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01-21-2012, 05:02 PM | #389 |
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Data provided by AA shows top speed recorded 175mph.
Why did BMW say their computers pulled a top speed of 198mph? I know it has spun close to 200mph before, so I am anxious to see what Mike Benvo can pull from the DME. |
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01-21-2012, 09:39 PM | #390 |
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Do I smell a hint of black-mail from the OP?
Sounds like someone wasn't too happy when things didn't go their way, and instead of accepting responsibility for his actions, he decide's to try and switch the blame to the company who have helped him for so many years. There is no proof of the motor detonating because of the work that Active did to the car. 2008 years have a history of issues even when running with a stock tune. When you add forced induction to a car you will always increase the chance for something to go wrong mechanically to the car. I have been a customer of active for the last 7 years and have never been treated in any way that I would not be expected. Why did you wait so long to post your accusations? Maybe it's because you have tried to get your way and have finally realized that a reputable company will not pay for your mistake. Either way, you are at fault. You made the decision to mod your car, so please don't let your ego get the best of you! Active have done more than enough by refunding you some of the money that you spent when you decided to supercharge your car which is way more than they needed to. Active run a business, not a charity. People that run their mouth are normally full of it...... Do you really think that you are trying to help people by starting this post or trying to ruin a companies reputation? Stop before you make yourself look even more stupid!!! |
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It wouldn't matter who's side I was on because in this situation the facts are on the table and the tuner was not responsible. Even if there was another company involved, like ESS or Gintani, I would like favor the tuner because of the facts given. |
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Thread cleaned up. No substantive/technical/constructive comments are being removed.
But, those posts which contribute nothing to the thread but name calling and insults, or serve only to take the thread off-topic, egg-on, or spiral into arguments and drama, will continue to be removed (such as yours, J08M3).
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01-22-2012, 04:27 PM | #394 |
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Shit man, sorry to hear about your misfortune. I have an AA exhaust and I'm happy with it, but it is unfortunate that things didn't work out do well. Good luck with whatever holds in store for you in the future
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